Alley 9,229 Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 How long does everyone make their chapters? I've heard a long of different options. I've personally decided to aim for around 2,000 words per chapter. (Sometimes a little more, sometimes a little less.) My thought is that; first, I dislike reading long chapters, so I don't wish to subject my readers to that; second, the average person's attention span is shorter than it used to be (thanks Facebook. ); and third, it forces me to look at the scenes themselves and make the best use of each while cutting the fluff. What about all of you? How do you decide how long each chapter is? 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ky_GirlatHeart 1,935 Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 All I know is that I write and then cut out what needs to be cut out. I do, however, tend to fret over whether or not my chapters are too long or not. But I just tell myself to go back to them later and edit then. 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
suspensewriter 5,690 Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 2,000 words is a nice chapter length, Alley, do to modern readers short attention span! 3 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sarah Daffy 4,933 Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 500 to under 2000 are what Id say my maximum is. 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Alley 9,229 Posted February 14 Author Share Posted February 14 8 minutes ago, suspensewriter said: 2,000 words is a nice chapter length, Alley, do to modern readers short attention span! Thanks! 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
HK1 2,126 Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 1 hour ago, Alley said: How long does everyone make their chapters? I do a chapter break about every 10 pages in my Word doc, so each chapter ends up being around 4K words. They're a little long, but I have scene breaks every 1K or so words. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ThePerilousPen 449 Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 Mine are like 5K lol 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Alley 9,229 Posted February 14 Author Share Posted February 14 6 minutes ago, HK1 said: They're a little long, but I have scene breaks every 1K or so words. Maybe you should consider changing your scene breaks to chapters to help with your readership? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
HK1 2,126 Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 2 minutes ago, Alley said: Maybe you should consider changing your scene breaks to chapters to help with your readership? That'd probably be a good idea! I haven't given chapter length and chapter breaks all that much thought. I need to experiment! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Alley 9,229 Posted February 14 Author Share Posted February 14 @HK1 Experimenting sounds fun! I know I had to when I started. Apparently, 10k chapters are frowned upon. At least I can laugh at myself now. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest LinkPen Posted February 15 Share Posted February 15 Well, my chapters often vary in length since I end them in order to produce the impact of suspense. But I usually swing between 2000 or 5000 words per chapter. Really for me it ends where the best effect is. As a reader I really appreciate chapters like that so I want to produce them as a writer. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Chris Brown 167 Posted February 15 Share Posted February 15 3 hours ago, HK1 said: That'd probably be a good idea! I haven't given chapter length and chapter breaks all that much thought. I need to experiment! So I do the same thing with long chapters but multiple scene breaks within a chapter... But if I make more chapters I have to come up with more clever chapter titles. 2 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
paulchernoch 553 Posted February 15 Share Posted February 15 Exposition will have about 300 words per page. Dialogue, about 250. With an average of 275 words per page, 2000 words plus the space at the chapter head means an eight page chapter. One publisher who wrote about his preference said 7-12 pages per chapter. You are in the right ballpark. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dobbin 7 Posted February 15 Share Posted February 15 I read that 3500 was a good size. I just finished a 31 chapter piece of fiction. And the length naturally hovered around that number and it "felt" right. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Claire Tucker 2,576 Posted February 15 Share Posted February 15 Mine vary between 1,500 and 2,500, on average (that's doing one scene per chapter). I do have a couple that edged closer to 3,000 and one that made it to about 5,000 (there was a lot going on). I think my goal will be to break the longer scenes down so that the chapters are all in my average of 1,500 to 2,500. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Alley 9,229 Posted February 15 Author Share Posted February 15 7 hours ago, Chris Brown said: But if I make more chapters I have to come up with more clever chapter titles. That's neat! I am not brave enough (or maybe I am too lazy) for this, but always love to read the chapter names. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Alley 9,229 Posted February 15 Author Share Posted February 15 4 hours ago, paulchernoch said: Exposition will have about 300 words per page. Dialogue, about 250. With an average of 275 words per page, 2000 words plus the space at the chapter head means an eight page chapter. One publisher who wrote about his preference said 7-12 pages per chapter. You are in the right ballpark. This is explained well. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Alley 9,229 Posted February 15 Author Share Posted February 15 8 hours ago, LinkPen said: Really for me it ends where the best effect is. As a reader I really appreciate chapters like that so I want to produce them as a writer I always said the same thing. Then a publisher friend of mine challenged me to split it up in an average length of about 2,000, and I found the there were good places to within each place to make a new chapter. Mine hit like @Claire Tucker, at about each scene. I had to learn the art of making the reader have questions at the end of a chapter without a cliff hanger. It was fun! Not that you have that same issue, but that it was my experience. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
paulchernoch 553 Posted February 15 Share Posted February 15 (edited) 4 hours ago, Alley said: a chapter without a cliff hanger Cliff is angry at you... (coutesy of "Between the Lions") Edited February 15 by paulchernoch 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Shamrock 1,870 Posted February 15 Share Posted February 15 Mine ten to vary. I end where I think the theme of the chapter has ended or the stage int he story has finished. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Zee 2,293 Posted February 15 Share Posted February 15 I’ve been working on making my chapters longer, to tell the truth—more like 3,000+ words. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Alley 9,229 Posted February 15 Author Share Posted February 15 4 hours ago, Zee said: I’ve been working on making my chapters longer, to tell the truth—more like 3,000+ words. Oh? Why do you want them on the longer side? Please don't take that as criticism! I'm asking to understand the thought process and if there are certain types of stories that are better with longer chapters. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Johne 2,125 Posted February 15 Share Posted February 15 It depends on genre, imo. My fantasy chapters range from 3k to 5k. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Alley 9,229 Posted February 15 Author Share Posted February 15 Just now, Johne said: imo AH! It took me a moment to understand your teenage lingo. Interesting. Is that because the word count itself for the book is usually longer? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Johne 2,125 Posted February 15 Share Posted February 15 9 minutes ago, Alley said: Interesting. Is that because the word count itself for the book is usually longer? Yes. I view Masterworks of the genre as a general guide, and my chapters sit for length right in with the novels I'm using as guides. (But ymmv, heh.) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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