Jump to content

Welcome to Christian Writers!

We are a friendly community built around Christian writing, publishing, reading and fellowship. Register or sign in today to join in the fun!

Recommended Posts

What do you think it would take to make  a space station self sustainable and would you live there?

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Check out the International Space Station and what it has. It is pretty close to self sustainable. 

 

But I would have to have sustainable for my horse, too, and some cats.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
1 hour ago, carolinamtne said:

Check out the International Space Station and what it has. It is pretty close to self sustainable. 

I am, thank you. 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
1 hour ago, carolinamtne said:

But I would have to have sustainable for my horse, too, and some cats.

 

Ha!  Yep, you've got to have room for the animals, Z!

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

The most intriguing space station design I've seen recently was in the movie "Elysium." While I don't recommend the movie (interesting but very violent and dark), here's a video I found on the likelihood of building a real-world Elysium: 

 

 

 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Posted (edited)

@Accord64 I saw Elysium, it is dark and violent but I thought the Special Effects weren't to bad and the idea of sacrifice in the end was redeeming. Because sacrifice requires sometimes great violence. 

 

As for the space station, very interesting indeed. I think the structure would be difficult to build and stay together well, and the open sky to space concept is just a little unnerving. The plasma shield is not for us.

 

I personally like the O'Neill cylinder concept well. One drum for primarily human habitation and the other for animals with construction shared in the lower gravity areas. But that can't be an exclusive arrangement. 

Edited by zx1ninja
Addition

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
3 hours ago, carolinamtne said:

NOT MY HORSE!

Well, they certainly wouldn't be first on the list. 🤔

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Another space station is featured on the "The Expanse." I really like this series. It's very well done.

 

Here's the lowdown on one of their largest stations: Ceres.  

 

 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

@Accord64 An asteroid hollowed out to be used as a space station does have a lot of advantages. Especially when you consider cosmic radiation and smaller asteroid protection.

 

By hollowing out the asteroid you don't have to search for and/bring in a lot of additional material making it easier to create. 

 

Very intriguing concept compared to building a space station outside of an asteroid or other galactic body.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

If you want to build a space station out of "local" materials, I'd recommend a humongous power source, and 3 (three!!!) asteroids.

 

Sadly, judging from meteoric materials we've gathered, asteroids don't seem to come with all the right materials, in one chunk.

 

You want a big iron-nickel asteroid; this is the one you hollow out. The iron is a workable structural material, though in the interior habitat, it will rust. Sadly, the nickel (expect 5-20%) is toxic, and even repeated exposure to small amounts tends to develop nickel allergies in humans. It becomes severe. Either refine the nickel out, or make up some "magic" technology that deals with nickel sensitivity in humans.

 

Next, for biomaterials, as well as plastics & tougher, protein-like materials, you need lots of carbon. A second asteroid that's a carbonaceous chondrite will supply this, though they seem much rarer that the rest. They tend to have some nitrogen, which is needed for the protein-like stuff, and for various hydrocarbons/carbohydrate-like materials, you need lots of hydrogen & oxygen, best found in the ice of some comet material (the third asteroid). For obvious reasons, you'll want a lot of water, anyway.

 

Other elements might have to be imported, or specialty-mined from various extraterrestrial sources.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

@Wes B So that brings us back to a constructed station so we can control the materials and prevent contamination or poisoning easier. 

 

Personally, still favoring the O'Neill cylinder. But I'd crazy to exclude other designs completely. 

 

On a side note. Polypropylene, if I understood it correctly, is a good material for cosmic radiation protection along with astronaut poop. Depending on the the thickness and density of course. 😄

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Greg Bear did a good job of creating a asteroid based generational ship in Eon. It was a good story. Not that you have to go with an asteroid, but it certainly is an option.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Posted (edited)

Been doing an overview of this very discussion on my author blog.  There's a link in my bio if anyone is interested, otherwise it's too much to put here. The last post was put out of place though, 😖 frustrating.

Edited by zx1ninja

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Z, I thought you might want to change this sentence on your blog: "Welcome to my Author Blog to show some of my work and discuss it others." I think it needs with before others. I'm curious why you use a date for your blog posts rather than titles.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
8 minutes ago, lynnmosher said:

Z, I thought you might want to change this sentence on your blog: "Welcome to my Author Blog to show some of my work and discuss it others." I think it needs with before others. I'm curious why you use a date for your blog posts rather than titles.

You're right, but I'm havng trouble finding that for some reason. 

I use dates because it's easier for me to track. And since I only do a few paragraphs at a time, it allows for continuous flow in my mind. Not that I don't repeat. 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

You're welcome! I noticed about your posts. Since your posts are date titled, the one is posted before the other because of the posting date. You can change the titles if that would do better. Just a thought. Sorry for the hijack. :D

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Yea, posting date is wrong and I don't know why. It's OK, I appreciate you letting me know. 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

You know, I don't think that building a space station out of an asteroid is as easy as assembling one in space- I'm just saying.

  • Like 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Posted (edited)

Maybe, maybe not. Like everything else there are good and bad sides to the asteroid.

 

Aside from what's already been said, what if you wanted to change its orbit or have it stay in one spot or even adjust a stationary orbit of a planet. Now you have to install some type of drive system or build a group of ships to tow it around like a tug boat. 

 

Still, there might be times the asteroid would be the method of choice. Size might be a primary factor. 

Edited by zx1ninja
correction

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.

Guest
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Restore formatting

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.


×
×
  • Create New...

Important Information

We have placed cookies on your device to help make this website better. You can adjust your cookie settings, otherwise we'll assume you're okay to continue.