Advertizing on porn sites?

[AngelAzariah]

_____Hawke said I should do this, so let's blame her. I've found that my work could be called "furry" it's strongly assosiated with porn. It's good if you ask me, I'm the only one I've found with clean work. However, it poses a problem when advertizing. Every site that has the tackyly called furry stuff on it has porn links.
_____I have a theory though. I could advertise there, and send porn going people to a Christian site. I think it would serve them just right too. :p Anyhoot, what be thy thoughts on the matter?

[whitehawke]

Gasp,
Um err. I suggested you ask for peoples thoughts on what you were thinking, not that you advertise there. eek, now I want to hide. Me thinks you enjoyed wording it that way, you rotter. :p

[Merry]

You know bloomin' well he did...but there's a little merit to the idea of Mr. Porn getting Jesus sprung on him...except, uh, which CHristia site are you directing them to?

[Tash]

You definately got me curious about your stuff.

I think if that's the kick you were hoping for you got it .

If i were surfin' porn {yeah right} and i saw a link to a Christian site i'd be like "what the....." maybe even enough to check it out , if its interesting enough,but even if its not, even if i stay for like 2 seconds i'd definatly remember it...

Then we pray for the Holy Spirit to allow the conviction to hit in those 2 seconds and there after ..let him do the work after that .

Did i make any sence?

Much Luv
Tash

[AngelAzariah]

_____I would send them to www.vailion.com, let them get hooked on my book, and find out that I'm Christian and my work is based around my world view. I've been thinking about it for years, but now I have the opertunity. I wouldn't march into a strip bar, but advertising on porn sites sounds fun to me. I might just go ahead with it. I just need to think up the right picture for the ad.

[KO'Leary]

I guess I'd be uncomfortable with any link to porn Adding something Christian to to site seems to cheapen the values instilled by God. Porn is an abusive to those involved in the degrading of body and spirit. I wouldn't want to do anything to link myself with it.

Karen

[Hisart]

I say no.

The possible back lash is taking a newbie Christian to the 'site' and showing approval by association. Your stuff is too good to stoop to that. I wouldn't risk it, God will bless your work His way as you follow Him.

That's my $.02 worth. !thumbsup!

God Bless!
Hisart :cool:

[AngelAzariah]

_____Ah, that was the flip side I was worried about. Still, where do we as writers post information about a book online? That question has even more bearing when the only place that suports your style is porn. That's advertising wise. I know of two cartoons with cat-like people, and they have nothing to do with porn, but I can't advertise with them. Thundercats is long gone, and Escaflona is owned by Japan.
_____I just feel like I'm in a pickle when it comes to advertising. Even speaking to people about what I write is a problem. No one seems to understand the concept, unless I mention porn. It's depressing, but encorging that I'm on ground no one else is on. I'm just trying to figure out what I should do, besides blah about the problem.
_____Looking at the bright side, I have a few people that love my stories, and that's heart warming in itself. Anyways, I'll stop nagging about this if I can.

[Nessa-Ciryatan]

I don't think I've read anything of yours, Azariah, but I wonder exactly what it is you as a Christian write that anyone could associate with porn. :confused:

I agree with KO'Leary and Hisart. While we need to be like candles out in the dark rather than clustered altogether in our safe Christian websites, there are certain places and things we just shouldn't be associated with to keep our integrity as godly people. Most people that go to porn sites are so twisted in their thinking that if they saw a Christian link on a porn site they'd think it was something peverse. If anything, a good link to put in somewhere would be to a Christian site that deals with people who have sexual addictions to pornography or other things - that might be interesting! lol

The other part is that you'd probably have to register with the site or something in order to advertise there, or something like that since I'm not exactly sure. You'd probably be bombarded with all sorts of affiliated things, and it might get harder and harder to guard yourself from them.

In my opinion, the concerns outweigh the novelty of sticking something Christian on a porn site.

There's 4 cents for you! :P

Cheers,

Nessa-C

[AngelAzariah]

_____Thanks for the encoraging words. I don't think I'm going to bother advertising there, I just wanted to know what people would think. In my younger days I would have, but then I didn't have much integrity to uphold. I was young. :p

[KO'Leary]

Hi,

It's me again. What kind of book have you written--novel, nonfiction, thriller, ... There are other Christian sites that may be worthwhile posting the name of your book an a bit of a review so that people get an idea of what the book is about. Have you tried visiting local Christain bookstores? Maybe even something in your parish newsletter would spark interest. Part of the selling is marketing yourself along with the book. If it's a print edition, local book signings would be a good option. Best wishes! I'm glad you opted out of the porn idea.

Karen

[wgjones3]

You really know how to get a topic stirred up, bud. !thumbsup!

[AngelAzariah]

KO'Leary,
_____I write fiction/tech/fantesy work. I've tried local book stores, and Christian ones want nothing to do with me if they arn't selling my book on the shelf. Then I've tried handing out bookmakrs, got rid of about 1,000 of those into bookstores. As far as the net goes, I've tried to link up with several Christian reviewers and they wouldn't even look at my work. Ok, I'm getting a little whiny here, so I'm stopping.

wgjones3,
_____I think it's because I'm blunt in my subject matter. It's not the normal chit-chat. I could be wrong though. :D

[Merry]

Actually, I gotta agree with Nessa, not only is a bit wonky advertising on such a site, you never know what's going to be coming back your way.

[Hisart]

AngelAzariah's site:
Vailion (http://www.vailion.com)
as seen in his signature! !thumbsup!

I haven't seen any porn in it and can't figure out how they got near each other. It's straight up fantasy!:D

God Bless! :D
Hisart:cool: (http://www.hisart.us)
{Had to do mine too!}

[AngelAzariah]

_____I don't think I will be searching for places to advertise at for a good time. This thread should probably die with it. ;)

[Tash]

Floks ,

I understand the uproar that this is causing and bound to cause but the whole problem with this "christian" walk is that too much of us box ourselves in .

What would have happend if Jesus did that when he was here we went to the most disgusting, trashy people the ones that the so called "Godly" would have nothing to do with i mean the cussed like warf rats and committed adultry but he loved them all.

Why should the so called "sickos" who visit these porn sites be exposed to his LOVE? YES HE LOVES THEM TOO!

Azarah if you help just one be led to the LORD wouldn't the angles still throw a party in heaven.

My only advice is Pray about mybe even fast and hold it up to the LORD give it to him and see what HE wants you to do . !thumbsup!

Much Luv.
Tash!

[aviator4]

The assumption upon using porn sites as a 'carrier wave' for christian 'communication' must be that 'the end justifies the means.'

The vital high point must be that a soul 'might' change for the better despite the fact the gospel itself has been polarised -as someone up there put it - by association.

The new Pope and the catholic church in Africa has a problem at hand where permissive high octane suggestive pelvic gyrations have crept into the dance rythms of African mass celebration. Some of these moves are lifted off the gangsta music channels and lady rapp breed. This act - to some priests - helps bring more sinners to the pews but to the theologian who must draw the line of secularism and polarisation of the liturgical tenet, the Catholic church simply had to put its foot down and rework the damage that is said to have recieved licence from the second vatican council.

The only person who would be impressed with results off a porn rebound is the author of such path. God's path of redemption was simply this...that His only begotten Son be crucified and just as the serpent was suspended high in the desert, so shall the image of the crucified Christ hold a conviction over those who look up to the cross.

That cross was posted at Calvary not at any Sodon or Gomorrar site.

In one of his books, Rev. Dr. Billy Graham explains that he started preaching gatecrashiong taverns, beerspots and bars but was suprised that the drunkards threw him out in protest. Later he started outdoor (crusade) and week long conventions the D.L. Moody style and was suprised to see how many drunkards abandoned their rum vigils for the christian ones. With time these same people who had thrown him out off their turf were invading his God annointed grounds and giving their lives to Jesus on Christs terms..and what are God's terms..

1.Be Ye holy for He is Holy..
2.Know Ye not you are the Temple of the Lord..
ETC ETC

For a closer walk with God...oh? along a porn path....

[Tash]

Well i see my point was totally pole vaulted over .Who is to say who is holy and who is not ? Who are we to Judge only the LORD knows the motives of our hearts .

Peter thought he was attaining to holiness by not eating kosher but through a vision our LORD told him call not unclean what I have made clean .That is to say If our LORD leads him to do this then who are we to discourage it hence my statement seek GOD’s face in your decision .Not because it seems wrong to you means that it is .

It was “wrong” in the eyes of the Pharisees and Scribes for a “so called King of the Jews” to be mixing with tax collectors and prostitutes ….i mean what real KING would ?

What manner of KING was he to come down from heaven where that was no pain emotional or physical, no darkness, where pure love reigned to enter filth and die for ME ..i mean what real KING would

MY REAL KING my Jesus

Much Luv
Tash!

[Warrior 4 Jesus]

Its a hard one. We shouldn't remain inside our safe Christian bubble, we should go out and meet people where they are at. But I believe this is a toughy. I don't have an answer for it.

[MsSherry]

I think that posting on a porn site would appear hypocritical. When people see Christian ads on sinful sites, they think "who are they to be preaching to me, when they are here also". Does that make sense?

Posting there implies that the poster knows and condones the content of the site.
Seems like any hope to be a witness would be tainted. :(

[Nessa-Ciryatan]

Tash, no one's debating whether or not God loves people who read pornography - of course He does. Did Jesus eat with 'sinners' and such while He was on earth, yes He did. Did He walk around with prostitutes and go with them to their next night's encounter - no, He did not. Nor should we. You don't have to step into a cesspool to shine a light on its surface. Like in the point Aviator made, people will see that light and come to it, we don't have to get filthy to take it to them. No, we certainly shouldn't stay clustered in our safe little Christian groups and not reach out at all, but we also can't compromise ourselves to do it. What kind of message would it send, to call yourself a Christian and yet be associated with pornography (as they would probably think, as MsSherry pointed out)? We're supposed to be set apart from the world, not rolling in its filth. It's hard enough to do that in daily life, let alone risk compromising oneself to something as dangerous and insinuating as pornography. There's a balance, but the most important thing is for us to stay pure. Seem selfish? Not if you understand that without that purity that comes from God, we're not going to be helping anyone. Trust God to reach into their hearts and bring them to where we can step in and meet them.

Cheers, :)

Nessa-C

[Tash]

i do understand what you are saying and but its kind of like saying we can't do the stuff JESUS did cause he was a god and we are just human when the word tells us we are to live following his example.

He, when looked upon by the "holy men" of the day to them he not only compromised what he said he stood for but also contradictory .He only did that in their eyes because they were in their own eyes all holy and he was not living up to their ideals.

I recognise some of your points and as things we have to be aware of what the world may think and that is definitely important.

However the finial decision rests with Azariah and his FATHER. As I advised seek GOD in all things maybe he sees a strength in you to be able to endure all criticism that may arise with this move should he permit you to make it .

As I see it honey your {Azariah} talent has already sparked with controversy if you believe this talent is from him and not compromising your relationship with him then seeking him in this situation should not be a problem.

Much Luv
Tash!

[Nessa-Ciryatan]

i do understand what you are saying and but its kind of like saying we can't do the stuff JESUS did cause he was a god and we are just human when the word tells us we are to live following his example.
That's certainly not what I was saying. I find it interesting you see it that way when, to me, the two points are unrelated. Jesus came to earth as a man, putting away godly things, the Bible says. He couldn't do what he did because he was God on earth, but because he was a man doing the Father's will. That's how we're able to follow His example, because he did nothing we can't do if we completely give ourselves to the Father's will.

He, when looked upon by the "holy men" of the day to them he not only compromised what he said he stood for but also contradictory .He only did that in their eyes because they were in their own eyes all holy and he was not living up to their ideals.
I'm not sure what point you were trying to make, but actually, to the Pharisees of his day, Jesus was a flat-out blasphemer. He acted contradictory to their religion and religious traditions, not to a lifestyle of godliness. He did what the Father wanted him to do - reach out to sinners. But Jesus never compromised His spirit or soul to do that. He shone God's Light at the edge of their world - being in their world, but not of their world - and they flocked to Him. I think that example is pretty clear for us to follow. Shine His light, but don't be compromised, otherwise you may be swallowed up by the very sin you're trying to show others a way out of.

Yes, it's up to people personally to pray and find out where God wants them. Some people might be able to live in a certain atmosphere and keep their integrity where others couldn't. Yes, study your Bible and listen for God's instruction. But for those who do that and are still not sure, God is a God of common sense, and prudence is the caution of the day.

Cheers, :)

Nessa-C

[KO'Leary]

Amen Nessa!! Well said. !thumbsup!

Karen

[beintransformed]

Are you familiar with Faithwriters.com? The site has a Private Messenger email with which all kinds of publishers are looking for writers....There is a monthly or yearly cost for PM, but it's not much. They also have a weekly Writer's Challenge on specific subjects for anyone interested in having an even larger audience. I mention this only because you're looking for exposure. And there's a Marketplace section just for advertising.
www.faithwriters.com

and then there's
http://www.worldwidefreelance.com/wfdb.asp
Hope this helps some

beintransformed

[paulchernoch]

I'm joining this debate late, and others have said most of what needs saying, so I'll be brief. I think one should not assume the ends dictate the means. If you want to reach people addicted to something, use your imagination! You can target other places they hang out besides their own private den of iniquity. They also shop for movies, food, clothes and such, just like everyone else. Advertise on non-Christian but non-offensive sites, and you will reach many kinds of people.

- Paul

[AngelAzariah]

_____Oh my, I've been so busy, and all this to read. I'm going to read it in order and respond in order.

Tash,
_____All good points, if I'm reading it right. :D I just wouldn't call the people "sickos," many fall into many different pits, I've been in a few myself. I still have that self-hate thing I need to get over.

aviator4,
_____I've seen this played out diffrent ways with different people. One person sang for a hardcore band, he cursed and swar, than annonced if anyone wanted to talk about Jesus to come to the bands booth. I didn't agree with that, useing turms such as ni**er, and f806er, and so forth is wrong.
_____However, I've meet an x-satanic prist, who was saved because of a Christian hardcore band. The cult he was once part of wanted him dead I think.
_____Matthew 15:8 - This people draweth nigh unto me with their mouth, and honoureth me with their lips; but their heart is far from me.
_____I see that I could place advertisments up to let people know of a better way, but I think I should do it if God sets me to it. I may not be the person to do something like that, but I wouldn't curse anyone who does.
_____You could look at it from a Jonah point of view. God has gone out of His way to set you on the right path, and all you do is complain the whole way because you want to preach about Him elsewhere.
_____I think I just need to be patiant and work with the "talents" I have been given. I don't want to end up like the following:
_____Matthew 25:24 He also who had received the one talent came forward, saying, 'Master, I knew you to be a hard man, reaping where you did not sow, and gathering where you did not winnow; 25 so I was afraid, and I went and hid your talent in the ground. Here you have what is yours.' 26 But his master answered him, 'You wicked and slothful servant! You knew that I reap where I have not sowed, and gather where I have not winnowed? 27 Then you ought to have invested my money with the bankers, and at my coming I should have received what was my own with interest. 28 So take the talent from him, and give it to him who has the ten talents. 29 For to every one who has will more be given, and he will have abundance; but from him who has not, even what he has will be taken away.
_____Anyways, I'm not trying to be preachy; just trying to give you an idea of what my view consists of.

Warrior 4 Jesus,
_____It's very brave of you to say such things. It is a toughy, and I have faith that God will help me use the right means.

MsSherry,
_____The site that I was concidering only has links to porn sites, and clean sites as well. No pornific immagies were on it. I think posting a link to my site on that one would be no different than useing google ads. My web hosting service already added me to the big names though already. :p

To everyone,
_____After reading most of these thus far, I feel maybe I should have been clearer with my qustion in a way. I did want it to be broud ranged, but for my personal note, I don't want to do ads on a site with nuddity blaitently on it. Oy, the net is a train reck of sinners, christians, and fence riders.

Tash,
_____Just read your post called "Thanx Nessa," and I wanted to say thank you. I still pretty much hate reading, I even hate holding a book in my hands, so God has a big part in my writing a book I belive.

Nessa-Ciryatan,
_____I've read your posts, but I have no real comment to make, not to mention they seem to be more of a conversation with Tash and don't need my input.

beintransformed,
_____I have one such link like that myself, and I'm concidering useing it. I'm picking around at options because I'm waiting on some people to read my work. They are checking for errors, and being a big help. Not to mention I needed some time to not be editing. I started to make mestakes that I normaly wouldn't and it hacked me off.

Note to me: I need to make sure I
only used the word said in
conjunction with any diologue.

paulchernoch,
_____Clear, to the point, I like it! However, my form of work is not common and I've accepted that that's the main reasion publishers wont take me yet. It's a fear that no one will read about cat-like people in a world with no earth or humans. I think God can advertise way better than I can anyways, so for now, I'm going to focus on writing. I'm even going to drop a hobby I was getting back into online, things have seemed to crumbled sence I did it. Gif art takes so much time anyways. :p

[aviator4]

The 'Son of Man' met head to head with the porn experts of the Sodom days . Despite Abraham's pleas, not one of them was spared.

But just read the story of the exchange between Lot and those who wanted the 'Angels' of the Lord out so that they could Sodomise them..

Interesting enough, Lot - who offers them his daughters to 'ravish' as not to harm the 'men' - was spared. If you believe you can use that as a trump card, well....

All this time the three Angels were silent and unconcerned. The earlier exchange with Abraham shows clearly the cities' dice had been cast with no option of appeal.

It would appear then there are Angels who can NOT tolerate the porn turf and others who think they'd be doing God a mighty favour posting Christ's avatar on these sites. Put another way, would you have me come TO YOUR CHURCH and paint a nude mural captioned ' God loves her too...?'

Jonah had a political motive for wishing Nineveh exterminated. God had given it (Assyrians oppressors) a 'repent by date' ultimatum. Jonah's option was to do nothing at all . He knew God would save them because they would obviously take note of God's you are either with Me or against Me language.....You on the other hand have so many options that we can deduce a hint the porn take is your premeditated mitigated choise. Newton's laws would apply here, for every action there has to be another of equal measure in the opposite direction..The issue would therefore be how they respond, the owners of those sites...

In 1Kings12-13, there is a man of God who is sent on a particular mission but ends up dead before all those he had gone to give the message.

When God sends you on real blue turf, instructions to be followed are so clear that they would not even be fielded on CW for debate. (No pun intended.) The ENTRY and EXIT plan, from God, would be explicit that one wrong 'assumption' would either implode you into disgrace or untenable repute. Humpty Dumpty was pushed...

In all, we at least can console ourselves with the 'justification for my actions' theory. Unfortunately I am not a man of letters to posit or defend such axioms...

Still want a mural...?

Take it from me, You visit their site, THEY'LL visit yours..?

Aviator4
http//:www.ourchurch.com/member/t/TopSky

[wgjones3]

Seems this thread has lost focus.

Angel, I wonder how many people here know what the term furry means... if it hadn't been for a show on MTV Annie and I saw a few years back, I wouldn't.

Also, just for clarification, you're not talking about advertizing ON port sites (or furry sites), but on sites with links of interest to "furries". Right?

[AngelAzariah]

aviator4,
_____I think I need to clarify my fist post.
_____Hawke said I should do this, so let's blame her.
_____Hawke chats with me off and on, and I throw all sorts of silly concepts her way for the joke of it.
_____I've found that my work could be called "furry" it's strongly assosiated with porn.
_____Pretty much anything "furry" a lose term for characters that are part animel has to do with porn. By this I mean that a great deal of people use and make characters of such nature for pornography. Very few are works that do not link directly to porn. My work is a clean one, but a 95% of the work out there is not, hense my work could already be labled as something bad, even though it is from a Christian world view.
_____It's good if you ask me, I'm the only one I've found with clean work.
_____When I said this, I meant that I have a clean work that can brake the standered porn only nitch. It would be very nice to do so.
_____However, it poses a problem when advertizing. Every site that has the tackyly called furry stuff on it has porn links.
_____I've delt with many a publisher, and what they want. They all ask the same qustions, "What's your compition, how would you market your work, and who is the target audiance?" My compition is porn work that lacks and lingering story line other than heavy breathing, I have no idea how to market my work, and the target audiance is people who can look past the porn side show. Hope i'm making myself clear with that statment; somehow I feel I will be exsplaining it in time.
_____I have a theory though. I could advertise there, and send porn going people to a Christian site.
_____It's just a theory really.
_____I think it would serve them just right too.
_____By this I mean that it is very anoying to do a search for "Christian goth band Jesus God," on goggle and get a band that promotes the death of all the dumb little Christians that are blinded by an old fuddy story. The band that I was looking for is from Africa I think, and has much diffrent view points. There is also Wedding Party, and Rackets N Drapes, and say Savior Machien. Oy my spelling.
_____Anyway, I wish I could get the groups that I want, or immages that I want, or reading miterial that I want, without having to sift through endless links of porn. There is a site with a stone statue of Jesus behind to people doing an exsplisit act that I ended up on, and I'm still ticked about it. What imbicil comes up with this? So now I'm rambling about a built up anoince.
_____Note and added rambel for everyone to laugh at me: Will someone please take me off the advertising e-mail spam list that keeps giving me links to drugs for ladys with menahpaws, I'm a man you know. Oh and my wife will live without Viagra I'm sure.
_____Anyhoot, what be thy thoughts on the matter?
_____I meant the matter as a whole, and not the previues sentence that I gave. I also think this thread is getting out of hand for something so simple. I'm not going to advertise on porn sites, I just wish I could get even with the little buggers out there who keep hurrasing me.

wgjones3,
_____I think I may have answered your qustion above, if I didn't, please let me know. Thanks.

[aviator4]

Check the views and know that the thread has HAD its impact. Angel has suffered no damage for asking a question. We may digress but that is why CW presents this as an OPEN FORUM.

Let the originator close the thread and assess our opinions by merits, whims, bias, misconceptions and partiality even to what we may have 'misunderstood' of the original post. The first rule of journalism (commentaries and columnists) states that no one has a monopoly of ideas, or,opinion.The more people digress from what you are investigating, the better for your data bank.

AngelAzariah..The more you post,or, the more we misunderstand you, and, the more we rake our brains even for those who do not post replies, the better for the CW read. Kudos.

I declare. Adios.

[KO'Leary]

Hi Angel,

I see your book is free to read on the web. What is your goal regarding it-(Example sell it to a publisher for a print volume)? That may help the group give you some more helpful suggestions. Best wishes with your writing. God bless.

Karen

[wgjones3]

Okay, Angel, I'm gonna walk out on a limb here...

My understanding of the term 'furry' from my 20 minute exposure to it long ago was this: it's a term used to describe people who like to dress up as stuffed animals or who are obsessed with stuffed animals and cartoons about talking animals. Right?

The main characters in Valian are a cat-like race of creatures who talk and walk like humans. Which is why you think 'furries' would like it? Right?

So you could advertize Valion to 'furries' without going to porn sites on web pages that have links for Furries, like a 'Top 50 Furry Website Links" website? Right?

Basically, have I summed up what you were saying in the first post?

If so--I think there's a big difference in advertizing on these toplist sites and actually advertizing on a porn site. I would not ever recommend advertizing on a porn site; however, I personally wouldn't see anything wrong with a toplist site. It's a fine line, but you're the one who has to answer to God either way. So...

That's my .02 cents.

[Hisart]

Oh brother!

Hey Angel-dude, just don't use the 'furry/furries' and go with 'cat-people' or 'Feliniod', just bipass the whole thing.

{I just looked on Amazon and 'Cat People' (1942) / The Curse of the Cat People (1944) and it's remake (1982 w/ Nastassja Kinski) are shapeshifter movies. There is a book by that name as well. Plus 'The Hunger' (1983) which is about the same. All are 'sensual' in reference.}

The problem is that someone that knows the perverted reference of 'furry/furries' won't go and won't buy. Then the one that does know the perverted reference of 'furry/furries' will go and won't buy. Unless you plan on attaching a salvation message in early on your site won't nail them in a way to justify the 'Christian on a porn site' thing.

I've read most of your book and I think you need to get it out where it will sell, if you want to do the evangelistic work set up a blog and link it to the porno and your Vailion (http://www.vailion.com) site. That way it's obvious what's up and that the book isn't porno. :D

Hey, but that's my $.02 worth.

God Bless!
Hisart :cool:

[Nessa-Ciryatan]

I'm not sure what the big deal is. I read a bit of the first chapter on your site, Azariah, and if all this is because you have characters in your story that are half-animal or all animal or something like that... What's the big deal? Your story seems to be fantasy in genre, from what I could tell (I may be wrong, I only looked at a bit of it). What's so bad or weird about having a fantasy story with talking animals in it? C.S. Lewis did that long ago, and more have done it since. I've never heard of this 'furry' thing, and I wonder why you'd associate your story with that, or even bother trying to advertise your story to people who might even remotely be interested in the pornographic connotation of the word 'furry'. Why not just polish your story up and start sending it to publishers? :confused:

[AngelAzariah]

_____I love you people... you're driving me crazy! :D

aviator4,
_____So are you saying I'm being helpful? ;)

KO'Leary,
_____I plan on finishing editing, and editing the next half novel I got and finishing it, then working some more. I don't know if I'm to be published at all, but it's clear having my work out there for people is important.

wgjones3,
_____There's a top furry site? I've never come across such a thing. Then again, my characters my be concidered that, but my plot seems to be more of an adventure I guess. I'm so dang confused now.

Hisart,
_____Bipassing the furry thing is exactly what I wanted to do in the first place. Thanks for reinfocing my evil little plan there. :p There has been one odd thing about all of this. Contriversy seems to bring in readers. I can't stand blogging though, and I think maybe my orginal idea was best: stick to my work, keep adding it online, and wait on God for the mean time. Maybe an offer will come to me, and then the whole running around will be void.

Nessa-Ciryatan,
_____I'm still waiting to hear back from many publishers, and their six months are way past due. I'm just taking note that the more I search for these sorts of things (publishers, agents, advertising venues, pods) the more depressed I get about it. Now if I work on my book and stick to it, I seem to have more people come to my site, more people letting me know that they love it, and I get full of joy.

Side Note:
_____I went to go pick up three busses last night with my in law, two broke down, and we blew over ten hours of the day on the project. I spet just about all of it laughing, so I'm feeling at peace for now. :)

[Hisart]

Okay, I knew I remembered a Sci-Fi writer that did 'Feliniods'. :D
This is C.J. Cherryh's authorship page (http://www.catch22.com/SF/ARB/SFC/Cherryh,CJ.html) and here is the three in one C.J. Cherryh's Chanur Saga (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0886779308/qid=1128345693/sr=1-5/ref=sr_1_5/102-9250445-9951334?v=glance&s=books) at Amazon.
Non 'furry' cat people! !thumbsup!

God Bless!
Hisart :cool:

[AngelAzariah]

_____Hairless cats... those things look so odd.

[Phy]

Advertising a fiction book with a moral center on a porn site seems just subversive enough to amuse me, however, I don't know that I'd do it myself. You have a unique opportunity there. Pray and do as you're led, and don't let any body else influence you if God has made his will clear.

[AngelAzariah]

_____Thanks for adding on to this long list of things I could do. :)

[KO'Leary]

Dear Angel,

You've certainly stimulated discussion with your topic. If your goal is to get published and you are not concerned about monetary compensation, there is a web-site you may want to check out. You would also have the option of sharing a short story and having your novel listed in your biography for reference. Anyway here it is:
www.morethannovellas.com
My story, "The Raid", is pubished under the short story section. It would give you an idea on how she promotes her writers.

Best wishes.

Karen :)

[AngelAzariah]

_____I'll go by there right now and check out what you mean. As for starting threads that get attention, I wish I would stop doing it. :o Really, I always seem to be missunderstood to a digree, and then I always make up my mind on my own. If not that, my wife has a big say in it. :D I will admit that I'm glad to see so many people can write here. :p Just teasing.

[AngelAzariah]

_____Interesting site to be sure. Now that I've looked at some other things on it, I wonder if I should go after some awards. Hm.