Gas Prices...

[wgjones3]

You ever notice that when the markets close and oil closes high, the prices at the pump IMMEDIATELY go up? But when oil closes down, they prices stay the same. How come they don't go down? And how come the prices go up immediately even though that higher priced oil hasn't even made it to the refinery yet, much less to the pump?

GRRRRRRRRR..... just some things that are bugging me about this whole thing...

[DrRita]

I know what you mean. :mad: Ever wonder why hot dogs are packaged in eight and buns in ten? The more we continue to oppose the Musilums the more we'll pay for our oil fix. And the US oil companies are just as bad. Dollar signs for eyes, brains and hearts. http://bestsmileys.com/money/6.gif Prices won't come down. Not unless the gov regulates them which will not happen either. No way out . . .no way out . . . aaarrrrggghhh!!! http://bestsmileys.com/anxious/3.gif I'm going to get a horse.http://bestsmileys.com/cowboy1/8.gif

[kilohertz]

They're starting to use diesel fuel made from corn- maybe that will support our farmers, keep the environment cleaner, and make us less dependent on foreign oil. Now if they could just speed up the process a little bit... I'm on empty again.

kilohertz

[wgjones3]

One reason behind high oil prices that nobody is talking about is the fact the U.S. Dollar has been steadily losing value over the last few years--to the point that OPEC threatened to switch to the gold-backed Euro and that China de-based their currency on the dollar.

I heard Pat Robertson's friend Chavez was joking about opening a string of gas stations in the U.S.--gasoline in his country was FOURTEEN CENTS a gallon last I heard.

I wonder why the U.S. agriculture industry isn't exploring ways to make a high-blend corn-based ethonol a workable solution. Seems like a win-win to me. You put farmers to work growing corn, you put corn refineries into operation that employ more Americans, we buy the ethonol so the money circulates through this country and not to a foriegn cartel. It reduces dependancy on oil without radically restructuring the automotive infastructure (I'm sorry, but I don't see hydrogen cell technology ever taking off).

[FireFeet]

I know as much about politics as my cat knows about how to write poetry...but I had to throw my rant in here. :mad:

My dad is a farmer and with the increase in fuel costs he is having to pay more to operate his farm. BUT he's still being paid the same for milk that he was in 1988 ! BUT we're now paying MORE for milk...and everything else as well...at the supermarket. And even though the costs of rent and groceries and gas have all increased rather drastically in the last few years, wages haven't increased in the least. So...who's getting all this extra money? "The establishment." Maybe the hippies in the sixties knew what they were talking about when they screamed "anarchy." It's like the union monopolies in the 20s...it's scarey and something has to change.

[DrRita]

I wonder why the U.S. agriculture industry isn't exploring ways to make a high-blend corn-based ethonol a workable solution. Seems like a win-win to me. You put farmers to work growing corn, you put corn refineries into operation that employ more Americans, we buy the ethonol so the money circulates through this country and not to a foriegn cartel. It reduces dependancy on oil without radically restructuring the automotive infastructure (I'm sorry, but I don't see hydrogen cell technology ever taking off).

Well, for one, all of our military vehicles and equipment runs on gasoline. To convert would cost a mint. But they could have done something about it a few years ago. Then we wouldn't be in this fix. :mad:

[wgjones3]

Well, actually, I'm talking about coming up with a direct substitue for gas, or at least a 50/50 or more blend of current gas and alcohol. I say fix the fuel, not the millions of cars on the road already.

In the days before computers and aluminum alloy engine parts, you could run a motor on alcohol. It wasn't the sanest thing to do, but it was still possible.

[DrRita]

Shows you how much I know about engines and such . . . :o Yes, corn licker could still have a good purpose.

[FireFeet]

http://www.eia.doe.gov/emeu/aer/txt/ptb0522.html

http://journals.aol.com/gaspricepics/GasPricePhotoBlog/

http://aolsvc.news.aol.com/news/article.adp?id=20050823052309990001

http://www.governmentguide.com/govsite.adp?bread=*Main&url=http://www.governmentguide.com/ams/clickThruRedirect.adp?55079743,32597293,http://www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/gasprices/states/index.shtml&CID=16101001

http://aolsvc.news.aol.com/news/article.adp?id=20050824144409990003&ncid=NWS00010000000001

[FireFeet]

http://www.cato.org/dailys/09-06-03.html

This is an article from September 2003 entitled "Historically Gas Prices Are Not Expensive." At that time, exactly 2 years ago, people were complaining that gas prices had risen to $1.79. But the article states, "If the price of gasoline relative to wages were comparable today to what they were in 1920, we would be paying almost $10 a gallon for gas."

[whitehawke]

When I was a child, we could buy a gallon of gas here in nz for 50 cents.
Now that has changed. Gas costs almost $2.00 for one liter.
If I've got it right, there's about 4 liters in one gallon.
If so, here in nz we are paying about $8.00 per gallon. :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:
GRRRRRRRRRRRRR :mad:

[whitehawke]

DrRita,
love that cowboy gif. !thumbsup! :cool: I want it.

[wgjones3]

Maybe we should all chip in, buy a tanker, and fill it up in Venesualia.

[whitehawke]

LOL,
that'd be the way ta go. :D :rolleyes: :cool:

[MysticFire]

From what my Mom read somewhere, somewhere in Israel, they're paying a nickel per gallon..Here, we're paying close to three dollars. If they're gonna raise the gas prices, wages should raise, because not everyone can afford to buy gas for so much for so long.

[FireFeet]

Maybe we should all chip in, buy a tanker, and fill it up in Venesualia.

Won't work if Pat Robertson has his way.... :rolleyes:

[Merry]

Yeah, we do that and we'll spend all our time dodging sniper fire from his church deacons...

[whitehawke]

Days of the horse return.
"Yee ha..!"
:D It's Hawke the Kid
riding a tall white stallion. lol :D
:eek: What? :eek:
Why you all looking at me like that? :rolleyes:

[MysticFire]

Speaking of horses, last year I was taking riding lessons....there were these two horses...Mirage and Empress...both beautiful gray horses and they'd nibble my arm and were so adorable....shame they weren't the ones I could ride, since other people owned them. Mirage's people took him home after a couple months I was there....*sniff* I miss them. The horse I rode didn't like me...So I have a soft spot for the gray ones....

[whitehawke]

*sniff* I miss them. The horse I rode didn't like me...So I have a soft spot for the gray ones....
MysticFire,
I love the grays as well. When I was a child I had a dream horse I named Montana. He was white with long black mane and tail and four black stockings.
When I was married, I got to own a beautiful arabian mare. When I first bought her, she was the color of my dream horse. One day, not sure when, I might put a photo of her up on my blog.
I wish I still had a horse. :) My first job when I left school was breaking in horses way up north. Many a glorious hour I've spent, riding horses along a windswept beach. (sigh)

[FireFeet]

Yeah, we do that and we'll spend all our time dodging sniper fire from his church deacons...

And if we're on horseback...we'd be at distint disadvantage. Kinna like playing cowboys and Indians...but the "Indians" have tanks and uzis. :eek: :p

[MsSherry]

I was told the following information related to the gasoline thread. I have NOT verified this information yet.

I was told that we would be able to take care of all our country's gasoline needs with our own pipelines in Alaska. However, we sell that oil to other countries for much less than we are Paying for the oil we get from the Middle East. Anyone know if this is true or not?

I am going to go search in a few and see if I can find out for sure, or if this is just one of those crazy urban legends that I hate. :eek:

[wgjones3]

Well, remember the dog and pony show about drilling in Alaska? Back when that was going on, I heard some oil guys on a radio show saying that there was more oil in ANWAR than there was in Saudi Arabia, but that it would take 5 years to get the pipeline built so we could use it. That was in 2000/early 2001. We'd be getting that oil right about now.