Do they count...?

[nHissvc]

Do numbers have spiritual significance?

If so, can associated significance be inferred from pervasive prominence of a particular number with respect to an individual (e.g. concurrently, birth: order, month, day, year, time of day)?

If so, what does the number 9 signify?

Thank you, in advance...

--Blessings

[lawi]

they really do ......so is sertain months and days but they are liquid i cant rely on them they can really deceive or confuse you..i normally dont put much weight on them but i have experienced many occasions here is a part of ma diary am just posting it to put a light on it

28th July 2006
STRANGE…..last year on 17th July God told me to prophesy to all my problems and called me to worship him which was the greatest worship I had alone on the bushes and God told me to be remembering that day all my life… today in the morning I was asking my self what happened to that day this year? I was in pain I couldn’t remember.
Then I took my bible and I continued with my walk through the bible I was now on Genesis 8:4 were it says that and I quote ‘and in the seventh month, seventeen day of the month (17th July) the ark came to rest upon the mountains of Ararat….but the water was still there and Noah had to wait till the tenth month….that’s is October.
I thank YHW I know what he is telling me that there is waiting even if the Ark come to rest they had to wait. Noah had to keep sending Dove several times….keep trying….


20th September 2006
GOD OF BREAKTHROUGH
Great time with God He tells me it’s not lack of job that lead me to prayers not desperation but a call he tells me than next month October I will have a job, (remember 28th July 2006)
Great God reminds me when the Children of Israel reached the land of Canaan they dint have to pray and fast nor practice for war with giant but only believe that their Great YHW will give the land to them and deliver their enemies to their hand, am talking of the same Great, Great, Great God of Israel. That am only to believe I will not tarmac but get a job and a good job.


3rd October 2006
Interview
I received a call from a leading a communication firm..,
‘….you cannot loose what you don’t have so its good to look for job without fear…’
I strongly feel that this job is mine I even dint get sleep as I meditated on it its se real God is telling me the job is mine.
I am so humbled by His Hand


24th October 2006
GOT A JOB
My God is alive, God is gracious am so humbled remember the October in 28th July 2006
Remember the prayers on 20th September 2006, 2nd October 2006 and 26th September 2006 the Voice of Jehovah am so humbled in more than 1000 i was among the favored 45 who got it thanks to God am so exited


so i dont rely on that but somethings do happen numbers and months and years sometimes they have a meaning i dont know weather its biblical but i guess..i would like to hear suggestions

[JayBee]

theres a crowd of saved folks that no one can number all worshipping God together.

[bgperidot]

Good topic! I have always been interested in numbers and finding significance in them.
The number nine i would think of spiritual fruits(love, joy,peace,patience,kindness,goodness,faithfulness, gentleness,selfcontrol) this would probably be a positive aspect.(harvest)
The negative i would think it would have to do with deceptiveness(because when you look at the number from another angle it looks like the number 6. (judgement?)

[Xenia]

I have a book (Biblical Mathematics) that states that the number 9 is:

Fruit of Spirit - Divine completeness from the Lord

Without typing the whole chapter is says that the number NINE speaks of FINALITY or DIVINE COMPLETENESS FROM THE LORD. Significantly it is three times three. NINE is the number for the FRUIT OF THE SPIRIT. NINE comes after EIGHT, which represents the NEW BIRTH. After having a good tree, the next thing is to expect is good fruit from that tree. "Make the tree good, and his fruit good." Matt. 12:33 The good fruit follows as a result of the tree being made good. The tree (man) is made good in the NEW BIRTH. As NINE follows EIGHT, so the good fruit, the FRUIT OF THE SPIRIT, follows as the result of the NEW BIRTH.
He also mentions the NINE Beatitudes and that our Lord died in the NINTH hour on the cross (COMPLETENESS OF GOD'S PLAN OF SALVATION).

There is much more but this gives an example of the spiritual significance of numbers. I can't help but think nHissvc that you are going somewhere with your question.... hmmmmm?

Lawi - I really enjoyed your journal excerpt!

[kshsj777]

Then I took my bible and I continued with my walk through the bible I was now on Genesis 8:4 were it says that and I quote ‘and in the seventh month, seventeen day of the month (17th July) the ark came to rest upon the mountains of Ararat….but the water was still there and Noah had to wait till the tenth month….that’s is October.

Actually the tenth month was NOT October. The Jewish year started at a different month than ours, I believe in March, so the tenth month would actually be around December.

http://www.jewfaq.org/calendar.htm

This might be a good link to take a look at.

[Xenia]

Thanks for that link kshsj777!

[kshsj777]

You're welcome, Xenia.

[tneeley]

Xenia, is that the exact title of the book, Biblical Mathmatics? I am interested in locating such a book because I have dreamed more than once about specific scriptures and most recently I had a dream about Psalm 119 and in my dream felt I was studying the chapter in depth and needed to find the center of it (like half of 119 or half of 176, the number of verses). When I began to study the dream the following morning, I saw that Ps 119 was all about the law, God's word. As our church was in the midst of conflict and division, I began to wonder if the dream was leading me to dig deeper into what God's word said about division.

[nHissvc]

Thank you all for your informative replies!

The inquiry is of a personal nature.

Just wondered if consideration of such a striking prevalence might proffer further insight as to my potential area(s) of service within the body.

While, I try to take advantage of spontaneous opportunities to serve, I often feel as though I am not fulfilling my charge.

I once thought that one might be able to infer a "calling" from any obvious gifts but my few proactive endeavors to pursue those avenues have been met with remarkable resistance:

e.g. I have loved to sing since I was a child and though, I tend to be a little shy, some say I can actually carry a tune.

Well, one day I mustered the nerve to inquire about auditioning for the chior at a local church.

The very same day, while composing my email reply to their enthusiastic invitation, I was literally stricken with the worst bout of laryngitis that I have ever experienced or observed (something I haven't had since I was a teenager!). I actually commented in that email that I my throat was beginning to feel irritated.

I was barely audible for the next three weeks. The 'virus' lasted about four weeks but my voice did not return to normal for approximately three months.

I continue to listen, intently, for God's direction...


--Thanks again, all...

--Blessings

PS I am certainly no authority but in the interest of understanding, perhaps Lawi's interpretation is contextual and thus, time, relative...

[Xenia]

Xenia, is that the exact title of the book, Biblical Mathmatics?

Yes. It has a sub-title too though... like this:

BIBLICAL MATHEMATICS- Keys to Scripture Numerics.
By Evangelist Ed. F. Vallowe

I ordered it on-line somewhere a long time ago. I'm sure you can find something similar if not this one... You might even be able to find a web-site if you do a search.

[lawi]

Actually the tenth month was NOT October. The Jewish year started at a different month than ours, I believe in March, so the tenth month would actually be around December.

http://www.jewfaq.org/calendar.htm

This might be a good link to take a look at.

...wherever....i think thats why i said i dont really put alot of fucus they can confuse sometimes he he :)


thanks alot for the link Kshj!thumbsup!

[Lookin^Up]

I don't put a whole lot of stock in biblical numbers, aside from the simple explanations such as: 7 is the divine number, frequently found in Revelation and other prophecies; 6 is the number of man, which means 666 is the Antichrist trinity that appeals to mere man; 3 is the trinity itself, and 3 x 3 = 9 means completion, as Xenia explained.

I also know people who try to identify the Antichrist with numerical tricks, such as assigning multiples of 6 to letters of the alphabet and adding up people's names. One group I know took verses at random and identified a particular year for "the true church" having been established. So you can really take this whole numeric thing too far.

On the other hand, mathematics is fun, and it doesn't hurt to add, subtract, multiply and divide things from time to time. Just don't make it a doctrine and tell me "the Bible says" this and that through such random exercises.

[ProfessorAlan]

I take much of the bible numerology with the same grain of salt I took the Bible Code stuff from a few years ago. Either can be fun and worth a chuckle, but not a whole lot more.

[kshsj777]

I don't put a whole lot of stock in biblical numbers, aside from the simple explanations such as: 7 is the divine number, frequently found in Revelation and other prophecies; 6 is the number of man, which means 666 is the Antichrist trinity that appeals to mere man; 3 is the trinity itself, and 3 x 3 = 9 means completion, as Xenia explained.

I also know people who try to identify the Antichrist with numerical tricks, such as assigning multiples of 6 to letters of the alphabet and adding up people's names. One group I know took verses at random and identified a particular year for "the true church" having been established. So you can really take this whole numeric thing too far.

On the other hand, mathematics is fun, and it doesn't hurt to add, subtract, multiply and divide things from time to time. Just don't make it a doctrine and tell me "the Bible says" this and that through such random exercises.

I agree completely, LU.