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waiter
05-12-2008, 08:42 PM
This is prompted by Lynn sharing a story about a man being reunited with his mother through prayer over a century ago.

A number of years ago I was at a prayer meeting with my head bowed while someone else prayed. Suddenly I saw in my mind a picture of my younger brother falling from the sky, hitting the ground, then getting up unhurt and surrounded by smiling people. This came out of the blue to me, and I had a quickening inside knowing it was the Holy Spirit. I didn't know what this fall was about, but simply knew it would be a fall in his life.

Not sure of the exact time, but about a year or so later, his wife left him. The long of this is that they remained separated for about 4 years. She lived with another man for a year. They have one daughter. After she moved out, my brother lost the home, and went bankrupt. He moved to another town and started up again.

Meanwhile-I should have got the message that God wanted to help just by the fact of his showing me this vision in the first place, but I had a lot to learn at that time about God speaking to me- I prayed for him on and off. I was a committed christian in my heart to the Lord in that I truly and stedfastly believed in him, but I did not live a consistent christian testimony to the Lord. So I prayed intermittently. One night I put my two young boys to bed. They prayed first,and then while Dad prayed, they fell asleep. I began to pray for my brother and his wife, and as soon as I began I was surprised by a sudden realization of the presence of God in my praying. I was really surprised because he really showed up out of nowhere and very strongly into my awareness. That showing up told me one big thing: God was for the restoration of this marriage. I knew that without a doubt.

A few months later, they came back together. But only for a time.Then they separated again. She lived with her guy then for a time. My brother eventually lost the house, and then declared bankruptcy. He then moved to another town, and she kept their daughter. In the meantime I prayed on and off, and the thing did not look good and time just went on.

Then my dad died in May of 2005, and my mom died in Sept of 2005. I went to visit him in Jan.of 2006. I was shocked at how much he drank. Very drunk 3-4 times a week.He was crushed by my mother's death especially.I was studying for a final exam on a real estate course. One weekend he came back early after going to visit his daughter. I was surprised to see him back early and asked why. He told me what had happened. His wife and him had a conversation, she said she could never be with him, he wanted to reconcile, it looked dead.

God spoke to me after I heard this. It looked worse than ever, I actually thought, it's dead, they will divorce. But God reminded me that he had spoken to me before and he said to not to pay attention to what either one of them said, what it looked like, nor what I felt about it. Not being in a great spiritual state at that time myself I somehow was able to not only hear this from God but take him at his word, and then I left it at that. He basically was telling me not to give up hope on this.

3 months later I talked to my brother and he told me his daughter would be coming to live with him and was not getting along with mom. I was deeply concerned about his ability to take care of her with his drinking and working late, but somehow this seemed an incredibly positive and interesting development. 2 months later I spoke with him and he said his wife was going to be coming to live in the same city for obvious reason to do with their daughter. Again, this was just by nature of being a new thing, incredibly positive even though there was no intimation about reconcilation whatsoever. Then a month or so later I spoke with him on the phone, and in the course of things I asked him if she was still coming to live in the same area. He proceeded to tell me she was coming to live with him. I was shocked. I had been led to believe it would ony be in the same area, not in the same house. My brother was cautious, saying they were going to see "how it goes", and that was perfectly understandable after all that had transpired.

I was stunned. Especially after what God said about not paying attention to what it looked like nor what anyone's perception about it was. It has been almost two years now since they reunited. I was not always faithful at the time in praying. God taught me something.He was the one who spoke to me at a prayer meeting a few years ago and before it all blew up. If I had been on my toes in understanding I would have known that I was to pray consistently for them.it is hard to express this thing properly in a short story for it dragged on for a few years and really the only thing they had not officially done was sign divorce papers.It is hard to express how much God was in this and what a lesson to me about God speaking and how important his words are.

I was not in the place of faithfulness at the time. I did not understand total commitment to Christ at the time even though I knew his reality, his voice, his presence. I did not understand the degree we are called to is to be full time believers. I learned that if God is involved and has made himself known, we can really hang on him and he will come thru.Appearance is not to be relied on, and that is our challenge. It is not easy, but all that matters is what God has said or revealed about his will in a situation, not what we think, feel, or what it looks like. Today I pray for their salvation, believing more confidently that if God will put their marriage back together, he certainly can and will save them. Having learned a lesson about not trusting what things look like, it makes it easier to pray and not look at seeming unchangeableness, knowing God is working under the surface. God does things that "we know not"-Jer.33.

lynnmosher
05-12-2008, 09:15 PM
Great testimony, waiter. And I love that name! We should all be called waiters! We all learn the ways of God by doing and experiencing those circumstances of His making. We just need to learn to have faith.

One of my favorite verses is Heb. 11:1. If you look up the meanings of the words, it could be rewritten like this...“Moreover, faith is the actual reality of what is expected, as the confident anticipation of matters being accomplished, the validity being produced as visible proof of the invisible.”

Though the eye beholds no evidence, the spirit is assured of its existence.

I will pray for their salvation. Be blessed...

waiter
05-13-2008, 01:41 PM
Hi Lynn,
Hey! Yes, I chose that name in a bit of a flash when I joined here because I did not want to spend a long time thinking of a name. However, I did want it to have some meaning so yes, I chose waiter because that is really what it is all about. I have no such thing as a favourite bible verse for the favourite is always the most recent word God speaks, but one which speaks much to me is Proverbs 8:34 Blessed is the man that heareth me, wathcing daily at my gates, waiting at the posts of my doors.
I have discovered that it is all about hearing Him speak to us and this requires turning and waiting on Him patiently in order to hear his speaking, and when he speaks, wow! I did not know he could speak all the time to us. I did not know we could have as much of him as we wanted/desired. I used to have these experiences with God and hear his voice that would come out of nowhere, and some of them were so intense and so wonderful but all of them would dissipate and disappear and I never understood why. This pattern became increasingly painful to bear with and finally came to a head in fall of 2007, where the Lord graciously showed me what the problem was. He essentially said it was all about the intentional exercise of my will to say yes to him and no longer to cave in to feelings. Which is what I practice now, and what a difference! This has been the deal now for 8 months, and I would say I have lived more in these months than in many years previous. And the living is not so much what I have done but what I have experienced of him in my living. Anyway, better stop because this is my favourite topic and I could go on as is my tendency. All I will say is I see God as a wonderful reality to be increasingly discovered and enjoyed, and out of that fellowship with him he will direct one's life into whatever form of ministry or sharing is to occur. So not a forced process of angst and misdirection but a more natural process where we are or become witnesses more and more rather than witnessing being something we do which is separated from who we are . I know some could charge this with being a theology of inactivity or that could lead to inactivity, and I understand the objection. But God does not disappoint, and I believe in the more natural process, so that whatever we end up doing for him is very very natural. So then if I am to be a small small witness, amen, let it be, or bigger, amen as well. But let me not force it or contrive it or manufacture it, or "lift my tool to it to defile it". STOP.
By the way,thanks the other day for your request which I received. That was very nice of you and I was honoured by your kindness.

lynnmosher
05-13-2008, 05:30 PM
Oh, you're welcome. And I love your "going on." I love reading your posts. You need to sign up with our devotional/inspirational group. We'd love to have you.

You are so right. So many times we back into God, with our eyes still on some circumstance or some portion of the world. Our highest offering of love and worship is to live a holy life of obedience and to sit quietly in His pesence, just communing with our precious Saviour. Oh, to sit at His feet forever, praising Him and telling Him how much I love Him.

waiter
05-14-2008, 12:42 PM
Where is your devotional/inspirational group, is it on this site, or another site completely? I'd be very interested in that. I could wish I had a job like that and get
paid for it-devotional/inspirational director of operations! I'm being funny right now and giving myself a laugh. It's good when one can sit in their office and have a smile rise up when alone.Hey, please let me know about that one, I'd love to check it out.

Thinking right now again. My experience in the church and around all the teaching I have been around privately and corporately, and I must have missed it greatly, and I know some taught it but not all, in fact fewer rather than more: that we are to worship the Lord first in the practical reality of a day in our life, and make sure we get filled up enough before we go anywhere, do anything. I know my problem, I can't speak for others, was that first I did not give the Lord my time so I could absorb his word, nor did I practise prayer so I could learn how to communicate with him and hear back; second, I was under the impression that I "must" evangelize. So what the result was that it was a cycle of guilt, of never doing what one was supposed to do, and always losing ground, and this hopeless cycle went on for years. It is amazing what I, and I am sure many many are or have been like this, was willing to bear because of unwillingness and lack of knowledge. I was perishing for years, many years. But increasingly I see God as gracious, and not a pusher. Satan is a pusher, and our misguided, mine at least, idea of the christian life, put a lot of pressure on one's shoulders. When you start adding up the burden one is carrying in this whole thing because of not being in the right place of understanding before God, it is a wonder how most of us living like that can get up in the morning. Therefore when I hear in the church, and I do hear it, the call to evangelize but no explanation of how the Lord wants to first meet us and evangelize us with his love and reality, I feel concerned and there is a grieving for this is not the order of the Lord. Many burdens have been put on people without first considering that they are suffering and perishing themselves and are in no way fit to be witnesses, but need instruction and healing from God themselves to straighten things out. Anyway, have to run, talk to you later.

lynnmosher
05-14-2008, 12:50 PM
To get to a group, go down on the left to the online users box. Click on your own name. On the right, go to groups. Click on it. I think it will bring up the list. Click on the devo list and add your name. If these are not the right directions, let me know.