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lawi
04-20-2008, 02:10 AM
i was just strolling on discussion furums and found this topic though its not a christian forum it was very interesting to read i decided to share with you guyz!

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Historians have classified six explanations as to why people hate the Jews:
Economic -- "We hate Jews because they possess too much wealth and power."
Chosen People -- "We hate Jews because they arrogantly claim that they are the chosen people."
Scapegoat -- "Jews are a convenient group to single out and blame for our troubles."
Deicide -- "We hate Jews because they killed Jesus."
Outsiders, -- "We hate Jews because they are different than us." (The dislike of the unlike.)
Racial Theory -- "We hate Jews because they are an inferior race."
Economic -- The Jews of 17th- 20th century Poland and Russia were dirt poor, had no influence and yet they were hated.
Chosen People -- a) In the late 19th century, the Jews of Germany denied "Choseness." And then they worked on assimilation. Yet, the holocaust started there. b) Christians and Moslems profess to being the "Chosen people," yet, the world and the anti-Semites tolerate them.
Scapegoat -- Any group must already be hated to be an effective scapegoat. The Scapegoat Theory does not then cause anti-Semitism. Rather, anti-Semitism is what makes the Jews a convenient scapegoat target. Hitler's ranting and ravings would not be taken seriously if he said, "It's the bicycle riders and the midgets who are destroying our society."
Deicide -- a) the Christian Bible says the Romans killed Jesus, though Jews are mentioned as accomplices (claims that Jews killed Jesus came several hundred years later). How come the accomplices are persecuted and there isn't an anti-Roman movement through history? b) Jesus himself said, "Forgive them [i.e., the Jews], for they know not what they do." The Second Vatican Council in 1963 officially exonerated the Jews as the killers of Jesus. Neither statement of Christian belief lessened anti-Semitism.
Outsiders -- With the Enlightenment in the late 18th century, many Jews rushed to assimilate. Anti-Semitism should have stopped. Instead, for example, with the Nazis came the cry, in essence: "We hate you, not because you're different, but because you're trying to become like us! We cannot allow you to infect the Aryan race with your inferior genes."
Racial Theory -- The overriding problem with this theory is that it is self-contradictory: Jews are not a race. Anyone can become a Jew - and members of every race, creed and color in the world have done so at one time or another.

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the site is
http://www.writingforums.com/lounge/95135-why-do-so-many-people-hate-jews.html

i thought its funny! but its what is in the bible just being confirmed

Xenia
04-20-2008, 09:27 AM
Jews are not a race. Anyone can become a Jew - and members of every race, creed and color in the world have done so at one time or another.

This statement is in error. Not just anyone can become a Jew! Anyone may convert to Judaism though...

lawi
04-20-2008, 06:41 PM
thats really true Xenia

am also made to understand we all responsible for killing Jesus, because we have all sinned.not only Romana/Jews
as the post says

Lookin^Up
04-21-2008, 02:16 AM
Deicide -- the Christian Bible says the Romans killed Jesus, though Jews are mentioned as accomplices (claims that Jews killed Jesus came several hundred years later). How come the accomplices are persecuted and there isn't an anti-Roman movement through history?
The Bible speaks of "the Jews" in several ways.

1) The nation of Judah (or Jews) as a whole. "The Samaritan woman said to him, 'You are a Jew and I am a Samaritan woman. How can you ask me for a drink?' (For Jews do not associate with Samaritans.)" John 4:9

2) One who is "a son of Abraham" by adoption rather than birth, such as converts to Judaism or Christians who accept and respect Judaism as a precursor to their own faith. "A man is not a Jew if he is only one outwardly, nor is circumcision merely outward and physical. No, a man is a Jew if he is one inwardly; and circumcision is circumcision of the heart, by the Spirit, not by the written code. Such a man's praise is not from men, but from God." Romans 2:28-29

3) The Jewish leaders, as opposed to the general populace. "[The former blind man's] parents said this because they were afraid of the Jews, for already the Jews had decided that anyone who acknowledged that Jesus was the Christ would be put out of the synagogue." John 9:22

The last one is, I believe, the proper understanding of "the Jews" who killed Jesus, not the people as a whole (though they did follow the leaders blindly), and not the Romans (though the execution method was their invention). It is inaccurate and full of prejudice to say all Jews are responsible for Jesus' death; certainly the disciples and their friends (except Judas) didn't hate Him that much.

Nevertheless, Lawi is also right: we all killed Jesus by sinning against God, which made Christ's sacrifice necessary in the first place.

Merry
04-26-2008, 10:48 PM
Or if you believe the Genesis six account that fallen angels came to earth and mated with human women, then maybe the hatred can be explained like this: The fallen gave birth to Nephilim giants who were embraced as great leaders and mighty men by the gentile races. The Nephilim were often rulers of these folks bringing wicked practices into being like "prima noturne, where the ruler spends a couples wedding night with the bride insuring his seed is all over the kingdom. (There were still nephilim after the flood...Genesis suggests that another batch of the fallen infected humanity again. C'mon, even Goliath was a giant.) -Anyway, the gentile races were polluted so badly God had to tell Israel not to take wives of them, because the Savior couldn't be born half-human.

But the violating of the Gentiles was so thorough that unless you can trace your lineage all the way back to David, you probably have a teensy bit of nephilim blood in your veins. And that's why think the Jews are hated. They are the only people on the planet who stand a chance of being full-blooded humans. The devil knows this and hates it.