So far...they still stink...

[Merry]

Let's see....Hillary is still Hillary...no vote there...

Obama aka The Messiah, thinks his grandma's racist remarks are 'typical white behavior' and has yet to say anything substantive about anything that matters. He is like going into an expensive store where they don't put out prices, but say, "If you have to ask, you can't afford it." Obama Hussein is pretty and well-spoken, but I don't think we can afford him.

And then McLane...who considers the Christian right 'a problem.' You know, I think this years election is such a joke, it's probably being used as 'smoke screen' by our shadow government to draw attention away from the fact that America is a mere tick away from total collapse.

Please, vote for none of the above. Give Ron Paul your vote or Alan Keyes or anyone who makes sense about anything, but don't vote for those guys.

[lynnmosher]

This voting season really is a disappointment, isn't it?

[kluchar70]

None of my favorites made it this far.

[jacks girl]

Yea i know what you mean I think I'll just stay home...

jacks

[Gravity]

Although neither Obama, Clinton, nor McCain will get my vote, that doesn't mean I won't vote. On election day I plan to go the polls and write in the candidate of my choice.

Pointless? Yes...and no. "Yes" in that in the big picture, my vote will make zero difference. "No" in that for me not to vote will make the sacrifice of those who paid for that right meaningless. In other words, I left too many of bros facedown in the mud in Vietnam not to be grateful for what they did.

So as I said, that day I'll step into the booth, write in my choice, and then go home and lift a glass to the honored dead. To do anything less would be a sacrilege to their memory.

[dcress]

Gravity makes a very valid point. PLEASE vote. If your choice is to write in, find out the requirement for your state and then the vote MUST be counted. Gosh who knows, maybe that is God's miracle. It's never happened before, but if the estimated 86% of Americans who claim Christian status, went out and voted "write in" and did so properly, they would scare the politicians a little straighter.

God's Grace,
David

[jacks girl]

What are we all going to write in. Paul Harvey...

[dcress]

What are we all going to write in. Paul Harvey...
LOL. Well, I can't say that would be a bad choice. If I remember correctly, he is married to an "Angel". Maybe it is being silly on my part, but I can just see the politicians getting the vote count and finding a valid 86% write in vote no matter what the names were, they would know that they had gone to far. Doing something is better than doing nothing. I think you'd agree with that much.
Thx and God's Grace,
David

[Tamera]

I'm not doing a write-in. But if I were, I'd choose Alan Keyes.

[paulchernoch]

My first choice was Duncan Hunter.
My second choice was Mike Huckabee.
My third choice was Fred Thompson.
None of the above is never my choice.
Of the remaining choices, I differ with one on fewer issues: I will vote for John McCain.

- Paul

[lynnmosher]

I will vote for the lesser of two evils, so to speak. I really don't want to vote for a write-in and give my vote away to help boost the opposing side.

[dcress]

Thx for comment. Understand your position. We are really trying to reach those who have decided NOT to vote at all. If you look at our last Presidential Election, the voter turnout is rather dismal in many states. God's Grace, David

[Shellbiz]

I'll write in Alan Keyes in a heartbeat even if he's unelectable (I've met the man, and he doesn't mince words, but I don't think the American people can handle someone as unequivocal as he. He also has a strong pro-life message and does not allow any exceptions.)
I cannot get past McCain's ambiguities when it comes to innocent human life. See my letter to the editor at www.worldmag.com (April 5/12, 2008 issue) mailbag. [I'm copying my letter to the editor as those of you who do not have a subscription to World cannot access it]:
Christians and candidates
I disagree with your representation of John McCain as pro-life ("No heaven on earth," Feb. 23/March 1). He believes in federal funding of embryonic stem-cell research and in allowing babies conceived by rape and incest to be aborted. He also believes that there should be less intensity when it comes to abortion. James Dobson is not the only one who will not be casting a vote for McCain. To be consistently pro-life means that you allow no exceptions.
—Shelley Tuttle; Superior, Wis.

Also see this link: http://www.ontheissues.org/Senate/John_McCain_Abortion.htm

[Lookin^Up]

WRITE-IN VOTE: Condoleeza Rice.

CONDI FOR
PRESIDENT!
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Okay, I know, she's not interested. And apparently the majority of America is not interested in having any sanity in the government's highest office.

*sigh*

[lindenbooks]

Oh, my goodness...I feel I have to do what everyone has told me my whole life I'm best at: scold...:eek:

As Lyn put it, there is a "lesser of two evils"...and as my friend, Dale, had put it, there is "bad, worse and even worse" on the ballots so far in this election.

Let me go on record to say, as Christians we need to vote for "bad"! And you all know who I mean. I'll tell you my opinion why...

We are in the middle of a war. Support for our troops is IMPERATIVE. Only one candidate promises them support, only ONE! My cousin is a chaplain with the US Army; it hits home for me all the time. Without serious and continued support of our troops at this juncture, I personally believe that the US will begin to cease to be what the US has always been: a world power/defender of all nations. It really is this serious to my view.

I am urging everyone I know to vote for the candidate that will continue to support the troops--none of the other issues on our country will be issues if we don't stand strong in this war!

There. I'm done.:o

[Knight of Christ]

Look i am going to say this once and then keep quiet. I keep hereing about about the lesser of two evils and all this junk.

But did you ever realy pay any attation to the statment?

Think about it, what is the key word here EVIL no matter what you choise you are still choiseing evil so tell me what good are you doing by voteing at all?????

[kluchar70]

Too many people died fighting for the right to vote. I cannot, in good conscience, refuse that opportunity. Even if it is just a write-in, the freedom to make our voice heard was paid for with a heavy price.

[lindenbooks]

Correction from me: I only used the phrase "lesser of two evils" as an analogy, just like if I were to ask, "are you pulling my leg?" I've never meant that literally when I've said it.

I believe, I'm praying, and I'm encouraging my friends to vote for another Republican president. We need to see victory from this war, we NEED to see victory from this war. We occupied parts of Japan for thirty years after WWII, and Vietnam for ten years +. This has NOT gone on too long in Iraq, war is HARD. Our troops and their military leaders are doing the best job they can, as we pray for them, and as they learn how to maneuver over there, and they need $$$. The republican candidate will give it to them!

Again, there will be no other issues to argue and worry over if we don't take care of our people working and laying down their lives for the conflict in the middle east.

If Christians don't vote, well, God will have to multiply the votes that are cast--because I believe in prayer, and I'm praying for the US to stand strong!

[jacks girl]

Well Knight I really don't feel any of them are any count. I use the phrase evil not too loosely. I don't want to get into a arguing match with anyone. But I'll be honest I feel that McCain will drag us on into Irac( excuse spelling) If this is something that has to happen to full fill the Bible then he will get in.

But I don't see how asking our young men and women to fight for a country that seems to hate us is right, I don't see us ever winning this war. People have to want your help, and they also have to be willing to get up and fight also. I don't follow this war because i don't believe what they are saying.

Hillary scares me less then the other two. I just don't know if the economy can stand another Republican for another 4 or 8 years. Thats my opinion. I don't say it to hurt or upset anyone. it's just how I feel. If it comes down to Hillary and MCcain i'll vote for Hillary. if it comes down to Obama and McCain I don't know what I'll do.

But it will cause me great grief and irritation to pull the lever for another Republican. Trust me i'm as right as you can get and I still feel this way.

Jacks

[dcress]

Dear Lady: I will not argue with you, but I feel compelled to respondWell Knight I really don't feel any of them are any count. I use the phrase evil not too loosely. I don't want to get into a arguing match with anyone. But I'll be honest I feel that McCain will drag us on into Irac( excuse spelling) You are an intelligent lady. I cannot excuse the fact that that you cannot spell Iraq after all this time. I cannot excuse your saying that the Iraqi people hate us. Some do of course, and so do many people who claim to be Americans. My friend in Iraq DOES NOT hate America and would move here if he could, but you obviously do not understand what opression is. I beg you to please learn more about this situation. We are America, we believe in God and Democracy. We are duty bound to help others and yes, even some of those who don't like us.If this is something that has to happen to full fill the Bible then he will get in. Yes, there is a direct correlation between the war in Iraq and the bible and I pray you take time to look at your bible and see if you too, are not to be one of those who HELP fulfill the prophecy

But I don't see how asking Our military is all VOLUNTEER and they want to do what they are doing. They believe verty strongly that they must stay with the program until we can successfully complete our mission. I am a two tour veteran and I can tell you what people on the ground are saying and it is NOT what you hear or read in the BIASED/LIBERAL media who hate this country more than most.our young men and women to fight for a country that seems to hate us is right, I don't see us ever winning this war. People have to want your help, and they also have to be willing to get up and fight also. I don't follow this war because i don't believe what they are saying. If you do not follow the war or attempt to discern the truth, then frankly ma'am, you have no place even making an outward opinion, but I support your right to do it at the same time.

Hillary scares me less then the other two. I just don't know if the economy can stand another Republican for another 4 or 8 years. Thats my opinion. I don't say it to hurt or upset anyone. it's just how I feel. If it comes down to Hillary and MCcain i'll vote for Hillary. if it comes down to Obama and McCain I don't know what I'll do.

But it will cause me great grief and irritation to pull the lever for another Republican. Trust me i'm as right as you can get and I still feel this way.If you and your house truly serve the Lord then, you must look at the Democratic candidates who do not. Socialism has never worked and Democrats are socialist and liberals. GOD is not liberal. He expects us to OBEY his law and we cannot just be as Christian as we want to be. We must be as Christian as our GOD tells us to be. Liberals support the taking of life when only God has that right. The Liberals believe in destroying the sanctity of the male/female union as distinctly described in the bible. HOMOSEXUALITY is wrong no matter how you cut it. The bible warns us against enabling as opposed to helping yet, the Liberals would have us enable millions more than we already are. Liberals want our taxes to go from around 38% to around 59%. I pray for Mr. Obama and Mrs. Clinton as I would for any person not in league with God's word, but I must vote for the most conservative choice we have and granted Mr. McCain is not a perfect choice, but he IS the most conservative and if you are as you say, a conservative, then, you must vote that way also.

May God's Grace and Mercy surround you.

[lindenbooks]

You know, there's no way to avoid controversy in this section, "Government and politics." : ) America is made up of a lot of different viewpoints, but at the heart of all is a love of freedom. Some of us are simply more literal-minded when it comes to the actual cost. By this I mean, it isn't a history tale; it's a cost paid here and now, for the duration, as long as the US is freedom-loving--not only for ourselves, but for others. This is the ideal of military families.

Also, I've had some communication with Iraqi families here in the US, and they are so grateful to have freedom here, and also grateful that maybe their families back home might see it someday themselves, because of what our military is doing for them.

I, too, hate the agenda of today's liberal media; we never, ever hear the whole story from them. I prefer to get my scoop from the dedicated military soldiers and families themselves.

Voting is a privilege, and I'm not knocking the people who have expressed a different point of view than I have, or what dcress, a veteran (God bless you!) has expressed--I'm just feeling the need to throw out a line, so to speak, to reel in anyone who is on the fence regarding what the most important issue is. Personally, I stand on the issue of national safety and defense--defending our stand against terrorists--and whatever it takes to maintain it at this juncture in history.

[lynnmosher]

I haven't been reading all the posts. I guess I should have but I haven't had time. I didn't mean to start anything with "lesser of two evils." It was just a saying I threw in. I'm sorry now that I did. I meant I wasn't crazy about the candidates so I will go with the one that is closer to my beliefs.

...so tell me what good are you doing by voteing at all?????

I will vote for that one because I do not want to waste my vote by not voting and having it boost the other side. I take voting very seriously.

Let's everyone remember to play nice. We don't want tempers to trump our kindness. Not shaking my finger at anyone...just a gentle reminder.

[jacks girl]

No comment my opinion still stands.


jacks

[Lookin^Up]

Good for you, Jacks, you didn't deserve that railing. And I'd have to say that I agree with you, except that when it comes to a choice between dueling Democrats and McCain, I'd rather take my chances with McCain.

I think it would be wise for the mods to close this thread at this time.

[Rebecca]

While we're free to disagree with others here, we need to keep it civilized and on-topic. No personal attacks are allowed.

I'm not closing this thread yet, but I am keeping tabs on it. Again, I must insist we avoid personal attacks.

With that said, I also find the candidates very disappointing. At this point, I'm really not sure which of them scare me the most. I say we draft Condi or Keyes! :D

Rebecca

[Lookin^Up]

I'm with you, Becca! !thumbsup!

[jacks girl]

Lookin I'm so thankful for friends like you. Those of you that know and love me as I do you guys. I appreciate your comments. I never mean to hurt or upset anyone with my comments. We all have our opinions and at times we may say more than we should.

This is my home and I would never do anything intentional to harm or offended, CW is my Writers home, a place where I come to pray and enjoy time with others. Once again thanks much for your kind words Lookin. They were highly appreciated.

Jacks

[dcress]

NO personal attack was intended and I apologize to Jack's girl and anyone else who felt I attacked her thoughts.

The fact that I am not a politician and do necessarily say what people want to hear does not excuse me from stating my opinion in proper tone and manner of politeness at which I apparently failed here.

Again, my sincere apology to Jacks girl and Rebecca and others et al.

God's Grace,
David

[jacks girl]

Thanks Dcress i return you back to Gentleman status in my book. !thumbsup! All is fair in love and war and politics, LOL:p and often we step on other peoples toes when that is not our intention at all.:eek:

All is well and thanks much for the apology.;)

Now As you were and on with the working out of who in the world can run this country in the right direction. :rolleyes:

I live in hope.:)

Jacks Girl

[dcress]

Jacks Girl, may I take a stab at answering your question "Who in the world can run this counrty in the right direction?"

The answer is WE THE PEOPLE. We cannot leave it to someone else. We must all fight for freedom and democracy and it is not enough for us to just talk about it. My years have removed me from the level of activity I once pursued in the political arena, but I have spent 25 years working on campaign's and political action committees and 10's of thousands of my personal dollars.

If we are to move to the left and pursue a socialist government then we will go the route of every socialist government before us, back to the fall of the Roman Empire. It does not take a very careful study to see the intrinsic conservative values on which America was founded and just as we founded a successful government, we can lose it also. Government cannot govern itself nor can it resolve problems for us with out us. If we are not willing to do that ourselves then actually, we do not deserve our freedom and democracy. If we elect the most conservative politicians we can then it will be easier for us to guide them. We must raise them up like a child in the right direction. The results are the same with a spoiled and unbridled politician as they are with a spoiled and unbridled child.

To quote Tiny Tim: "God Bless Us Eveyone."

[jacks girl]

I see your point, but I think now and then the Republicans need a smack on the hand to say. This guy was not far enough to the right for the right. I'm thinking may be if we keep voting for any guy they throw out there nothing will get better.

Still hoping things will change for the better
Jacks

[dcress]

I cannot disagree with your thought and have often wished that we could get organized enough to use the write in as a veto and try and wake them all up. My concern at this juncture is that, even with McCain being a rhino instead of a true conservative, we may be able to influence him and a stronger house and senate next time. Right now, I feel almost paranoid that Obama or Hillary will gain enough clout to take us where no Democracy has gone before and survived. Ha. Maybe Captain Kirk for Pres.

[jacks girl]

LOL I always did like Captain Kirk.

I'm not saying that I wont vote for McCain it's just so depressing to think about more of what we've had the last few years. I know a dem in office don't mean that prices will go down in fuel, it don't mean i'll get the health care i need, but I just don't know what else to do.

i feel at my whits end. I say to myself can it really get any worse if a dem gets into office and I know it really can. I guess I'll just wait and see what kind of things come our of the next few months.

Jacks

[kshsj777]

I'm not sure what to do either. I am NOT voting for Obama or Hillary unless they get converted overnight :) I don't know what to do about McCain. I'm not happy with his pro embryonic stem cell research and with the fact he thinks "civil unions" between homosexuals is okay.

If I don't vote for him, and if a lot of people don't vote for him, than the other candidates might get enough votes and that'll be worse. But how exactly can I vote for a guy that isn't completely pro-life? Doing a write-in isn't going to change anything, unless a bunch of us do it.

And this is supposed to be my FIRST time voting and it's already being ruined :(

I don't suppose Mike Huckabee would still be interested? I was going to vote for him...

[jacks girl]

I would have voted for Mike. I personally thing we need a dem in office for a while to remind Republicans that they need to straighten up and move back to the right.

jacks

[dcress]

Jacks girl: On the subject of Capt. Kirk. I was recently in his home town of course, he hasn't been born yet and won't be for another 20 years, but they celebrate him each year and have a replica of the star ship enterprise in the center of town. Town is Riverside Iowa about 2 hrs from my home.