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Dr. Daniel
03-15-2008, 08:55 PM
Seriously...the recent siting of mile wide UFO's in east Texas, last fall's siting over O'Hare international...not to mention the hundreds of sitings every month, and let's not forget that thousands of otherwise sane, normal folks have reported being abducted by aliens. What's up? any ideas?

Rebecca
03-15-2008, 09:03 PM
I do believe something is going on. Like you said, there are too many otherwise sane, normal folks reporting this stuff.

But what's going on? Is it demonic? Is it actually another species trying to contact us? Or are the UFOs some sort of government project? Or something else entirely? I honestly have no idea, but I think it's an interesting topic. I'm looking forward to reading what others have to say.

Rebecca

Xenia
03-15-2008, 09:19 PM
As in the days of Noah... That's what I think is going on. I think anyone curious about this topic would find the following book very fascinating. Go to the link and read the reviews. I've read the book twice :).

Book Description (NOAH)
There were giants in the earth in those days..." It was a virgin earth gone wrong: a world touched by strange creatures, angelic beings, and the wickedness of men. Only one man warned of the cataclysm to come. Noah as you never knew him! This may be the most unusual novel you will ever read! Hailed by critics for its daring theories of the pre-Flood world and the preacher of righteousness.
http://www.amazon.com/Noah-Ellen-Gunderson-Traylor/dp/0970027419

Phy
03-15-2008, 10:36 PM
I believe in the spiritual war that we already know from the length and breadth of scripture.

As far as alien visitors in our night skies? I'm skeptical.

ProfessorAlan
03-15-2008, 10:37 PM
I don't believe it's anything incredible.

Tamera
03-15-2008, 11:14 PM
I beleive in Spiritual Warfare that is sometimes misinterpreted as other things. As far as aliens visiting Earth - I doubt it. Now, I do believe it's possible that God created other beings throughout the universe. His creation is probably more vast than we can fathom. But I also believe that if aliens were an issue that needed to be addressed, scripture would address it.

Daniel
03-16-2008, 03:35 AM
This has always been one of my favorite topics, I did some study into the back in high school and it has always kept my attention, wanting to keep myself updated on it. As far as the Bible saying something about it, there are lots of things that the Bible doesn't say. So maybe it wasn't something that really wasn't note worthy. Other creatures being created besides us? I don't know, but the Bible does focus strictly upon mankind and God's purpose and love for them. Even in the ending it speaks about a new heaven and a new earth, nothing in there about another race of beings. People use that verse about Satan being the lord of the sky, but I really doubt using that as an example for aliens. After all, what about their technology? Surely Satan would jest at such a remark made about him and his fellow corhorts. But maybe there really is something going on, something that is connected, something stranger that we don't realize and that there is written but briefly in certain parts of Biblical texts that we don't see. Maybe it is something that we aren't ready for, who knows.

I read one account where this one alien was talking to this contactee and they were talking about spirituality. Guess what this particular race believed in? That's right, the god within.

Colin
03-16-2008, 02:04 PM
I believe in Flying Saucers.......and cups and plates when the wife throws them at me when she is mad! Just joking!

jacks girl
03-16-2008, 02:05 PM
I personally think UFO's and little green men are our tax dollars at work. i always say if they let us see this new invention what do they have that they won't let us see. I can't prove this but I think it's true. I don't loose much sleep over it. I worry more about the spiritual world then ufo's. Now on the other hand i might believe in Big Foot.

Jacks

Tommie Lyn
03-16-2008, 02:41 PM
Now on the other hand i might believe in Big Foot.

Jacks
http://www.kentuckybigfoot.com/

jacks girl
03-16-2008, 03:09 PM
Uncool >>>lol i don't live far from Ashland.. YIKES... LOL LOL thanks Tommie

kluchar70
03-16-2008, 07:19 PM
I have always been fascinated with the possibility of aliens. I am a sci-fi fan and have always thought about this subject. What I have read about it, however, makes me think that this current phenomenon is demonic. I have read books like Communion written people who claim to have been abducted and I don't doubt that something happened. The author for Communion, Whitley Strieber, is well respected by those who believe in aliens and his account is held as one of the most valid. I even read one where the woman, who Whitley Streiber vouched for, talked to the aliens. They wanted her to be their liaison with the humans and even wanted to use her DNA to breed alien hybrids. But it's the messages that the supposed aliens are telling a select few that causes me concern. They are saying things like the Bible is outdated, God is not real, and various other comments that line up with new age thinking. Many people who are abducted later experience such things a astral projection. Not only that, but the people who are abducted go through extreme physical and mental torture. It just all sounds like demonic activity to me.
As far as what the Bible says about aliens, it is only an account of our Earth. I think that other worlds aren't in the Bible because they did not need to be. I mean, our own solar system isn't even talked about in detail. One thing is for sure, we are unique in the universe, for it would seem that we are the crown jewel of all of God's creation.

Phy
03-16-2008, 10:00 PM
I have always been fascinated with the possibility of aliens. I am a sci-fi fan and have always thought about this subject. What I have read about it, however, makes me think that this current phenomenon is demonic. I have read books like Communion written people who claim to have been abducted and I don't doubt that something happened. The author for Communion, Whitley Strieber, is well respected by those who believe in aliens and his account is held as one of the most valid.

I'm a sci-fi fan, too, which is is short for 'science fiction'. Saying that Whitley Strieber is credible among the community is like saying that Paul Muad'Dib is credible among Fremen. Both communities are lively. Both are based on fantasy instead of reality. A valid fiction is still fiction.

ProfessorAlan
03-16-2008, 10:59 PM
I enjoy listening to Coast 2 Coast when I can't sleep, but it's just entertainment, as far as I'm concerned.

Hisart
03-17-2008, 10:40 AM
Here is a great little book called Encounters with UFOs (http://www.amazon.com/Encounters-UFOs-Zola-Levitt/dp/1930749023/ref=pd_bbs_3?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1205760756&sr=1-3) (Originally published as 'UFOs What on earth is happening? (http://www.amazon.com/UFOs-John-Weldon-Zola-Levitt/dp/B000O7BYAE/ref=sr_1_11?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1205760756&sr=1-11)') if you can find a copy, read it!:D
http://g-ecx.images-amazon.com/images/G/01/ciu/c2/4f/9dd653a09da0c1ef14ef5110._AA240_.L.jpg

Paul.Chernoch
03-17-2008, 02:18 PM
I once saw a flying saucer. It was shiny and silver, hovered in place for a half a minute, and then turned to the side, at which point it became clear that I was staring at a commercial jetliner. When a plane is flying straight toward you, its profile is different and it looks like it is hovering. If the plane had entered a cloud before turning, I never would have had that illusion pierced.

Needless to say, I am highly skeptical of UFOs. In my view, these beliefs are what you get when strange sights are filtered through the modern lens of scientific rationalism by hearts longing for the mystical. A thousand years ago people seeing the same things would have described it differently.

I believe in angels and demons, and it is possible that some of these sightings are of supernatural beings, but I think most reports were made by liars seeking publicity, drug and alcohol addicts, the mentally unstable, or people like me, who due to an odd trajectory or peculiar meteorological conditions see something natural or man-made in an odd light.

God is all-knowing and not careless, so I doubt that any of these sightings are angels. Scripture informs us that He is not interested in wowing us into faith with signs. Angels help those whom God has sent them to help, and are seen by those whom God wishes to see them.

The devil wants to deceive, so if he has the capability to do so and God allows it, he will mesmerize us with false visions. In the end times he will do so; I just do not know when those times will arrive.

- Paul

Gina123
03-17-2008, 03:05 PM
Paul's answer really sums up what I think also!

Colin
03-17-2008, 04:03 PM
And what I think also Paul. Well said!

Cymrugirl
03-17-2008, 04:19 PM
I heard a comedienne the other night describing alien abduction from the viewpoint of a fish that had been caught and thrown back in the water.

It was pretty funny. Listening to her imitate what that fish sounded like trying to explain what had happened to him.


As for commenting on unidentified flying objects. Well, I believe they're unidentified.

JayBee
03-20-2008, 08:40 PM
If alians exist then they must be either good or evil. obedient to God or rebels and followers of the evil one. Where were they when Christ came down to earth? God created all.....both Angels and Mankind. Only mankind can say Christ died for me....

Lookin^Up
03-21-2008, 01:06 AM
If aliens truly wanted to make themselves known to us, there would be no question about what we were seeing. They aren't going to play with light as though play "now you see me now you don't". And God definitely does not; He's into clear messages.

Satan wants to distract our attention from following God, so he puts UFO images out there to make us think about space, rather than the Creator of space. It is very tellng when one person sees a UFO or something else, and someone else looking in the same direction sees nothing. That's a sure sign that the phenomenon is spiritual in nature.

Do aliens exist? No one knows. JayBee is right, they'd have to be creations of God if they did exist, and there would be a way of redemption for them as well. In writing sci-fi, I have postulated many "manifestations" of Christ to atone for each world's sins, but that is speculation--a serviceable bit of fiction for my fiction. It's not "many" Christs, but the same redemption plan formatted for other peoples. Take or leave that as you see fit.

But chances are, most UFO sightings are not real, or at least not physical.

Phy
03-21-2008, 07:52 PM
If alians exist then they must be either good or evil. obedient to God or rebels and followers of the evil one. Where were they when Christ came down to earth? God created all.....both Angels and Mankind. Only mankind can say Christ died for me....

If aliens exist, they must be alien.

;)

They could easily be like aboriginal people who have no direct knowledge of Christ, but who are still responsible to God. Maybe we're supposed to evangelize them by our love, tell them the Gospel of Jesus Christ.

But that's a 'might-be'. I still don't believe they exist.

louonamac
03-22-2008, 02:04 PM
We have a few related articles at http://www.everlastinglifeministries.com/aliens.asp

JayBee
03-22-2008, 08:26 PM
The Gospel is only for Man since it was Man that disobeyed God in the beginning. Satan fell from grace before that. he wanted the worship that was rightfully God's and that was his downfall. Jesus said He saw Satan fall like lightening. he was stripped of his status in Heaven and when he fell he took a third of the Angels with Him.

Xenia
03-22-2008, 11:44 PM
True. That is different though than the "angels who left their proper domain" because they saw that the daughters of men where fare..

*edit* The above is my paraphrase ~ the referenced verse actually says:

Gen 6:2 That the sons of God saw the daughters of men that they were fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose.

I believe this is referring to Angels. (it's what my bible says in the margin)

Lookin^Up
03-23-2008, 06:50 AM
How do you explain this?

"Jesus replied, 'You are in error because you do not know the Scriptures or the power of God. At the resurrection people will neither marry nor be given in marriage; they will be like the angels in heaven.'" Matthew 22:29-30

"Jesus replied, 'Are you not in error because you do not know the Scriptures or the power of God? When the dead rise, they will neither marry nor be given in marriage; they will be like the angels in heaven.'" Mark 12:24-25

Marriage implies sexual relations, and angels, being spirits, are not built for that. Nowhere in Scripture are they said to procreate; that is an assumption commonly found in pagan mythology. And since Scripture cannot contradict itself, that can only mean that the terms "sons of God" and "daughters of men (Adam)" cannot be taken with absolute literalism.

If "daughters of Cain" is meant, it does not necessarily mean Cain's lineage had only daughters, nor does it necessarily mean that Seth's lineage had only sons. It's a symbolic description of intermarriage that corrupted the holy seed, just as intermarriage between Christians and unbelievers corrupts those unions and societies. Nor are the "giants" necessarily the literal Nephilim found elsewhere in Scripture; they could be men with big egos who had no use for God (like Nimrod), and therefore were condemned.

"Do not be yoked together with unbelievers. For what do righteousness and wickedness have in common? Or what fellowship can light have with darkness? What harmony is there between Christ and Belial? What does a believer have in common with an unbeliever? What agreement is there between the temple of God and idols? For we are the temple of the living God. As God has said: 'I will live with them and walk among them, and I will be their God, and they will be my people.'" 2 Corinthians 6:14-16

Marriage is the backbone of any people, so the breakdown of marriage condemns a people; so does idol worship. And perverse marriage (living together, gay unions) exacerbates the whole problem. Without regard for God, the only alternative is idol worship, and that is strong enough to warrant God's destruction with a worldwide Flood.

Xenia
03-23-2008, 08:59 AM
Here is a whole page of studies on the subject. It compliments what Louonamac posted nicely. http://www.gracethrufaith.com/search?SearchableText=giants&SUBMIT.x=8&SUBMIT.y=10

This is nothing to cause division though...:)

JayBee
03-23-2008, 08:29 PM
I am so glad that God sent Jesus to redeem Mankind and that Jesus was obedient even to death and no matter what, nothing can thwart Gods great Plan. There have indeed been many attempts by the enemy and he still continues but not for much longer because one day soon Jesus will return and satan and his followers will receive the reward they deserve. Remember when satan reminds you of your past remind him of your future. his future and his followers is the pit

Lookin^Up
03-25-2008, 11:09 PM
Amen, JayBee! !thumbsup!