Rumor or truth? A chip in our hands to buy our goods?

[jacks girl]

Rumor or truth? A chip in our hands to buy our goods?
I've been told by my aunt that her son found a web site that says some of the bigger chains of grocery stores have all ready been placing machines in their stores with a special made machine for a hand scan. That this machine will scan your hand for your purchase.

She's really frightened and has me worried, is there really such a machine going into stores. have any of you seen this article on the net. I'm not trying to start any kind of debate here. I just want to know have anyone of you seen any thing like this on the net.

If so please post the links.

Jacks Girl

Just a note I didn't mean to toss this into the writers forum over at CW but Becca closed the open forum about the time i posted this note and it teleported into the writers forum some how.

[ProfessorAlan]

since I've heard various versions of this for 20+ years, probably not true.

But some people are looking into voluntarily implanting some types of chips for ID and medical purposes.

[PattyU]

Are you thinking about the Pay by Touch machines?


I've seen a few in stores, but I've never tried to use one. It's using a fingerprint reader and not a chip in a hand. I think Sunflower Foods had them. They recently went out of business. I think another store I go to has them, but I can't remember which store.

http://www.forbes.com/2005/06/17/digital-life-fingerprint-scanners-cx_ah_0617diglife.html

[Xenia]

Jacks, I did a pretty good google search and got lots of hits on hand held devices for scanning your own groceries. The closest thing I could find to what you are describing is the following. No mention of chips though...

All you do is sign up for the system, which links your finger scan to your bank account. When you're ready to check out just press a button and the money is withdrawn — no cash, credit cards or checks need to change hands. Store managers say half of Green Hills customers are already paying by touch, and they're not only saving time, they're also saving money. The system tracks what products customers buy and rewards them at the beginning of each shopping trip with an array of coupons, and recipes, geared specifically to them.http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/NewYearNewYou/story?id=4081198I saw lots of "in the works" development for this but nothing on it actually happening NOW. I will search a bit more and post back if I find anything more specific.

[Gravity]

Something like this is coming, because to the secular mind it makes perfect sense. I think we're years away from it, though.

[jacks girl]

Thanks all of you and a special shout out to xenia for doing such a great search on the subject.

If i talk to my cousin i will try to find out where he found the site that has scared them so..into thinking the mark is coming soon.

Jacks

[Tamera]

Rev. 14:9 says And the third angel followed them, saying with a loud voice, If any man worship the beast and his image, and receive his mark in his forehead, or in his hand,

Basically this means that nobody will recieve the mark of the beast accidently or ignorantly. All who receive it are willing to worship the beast (the antichrist). Also since it is the mark of the beast, it will not come about until the antichrist comes on the scene. As the end times approach, technology has come about to make this possible. But, until the rapture and the rising of the antichrist, nobody has to worry about the new technology causing somebody to inadvertantly take the mark of the beast.

[Ransom v. Unman]

Actually, there are HUGE civil liberty and privacy issues involved in something like this, and secularists are not necessarily all behind it. I actually posted an article about this technology in the science area where this kind of stuff was critiqqued heavily in a very secular publication.

Anyway, here's the Snopes article on this conspiratorial nonsense.

http://www.snopes.com/politics/business/mondex.asp

[Tamera]

Thank you for the article, Ransom. Although I am completely sold on a pretrib rapture and a literal translation of the book of Revelations, I get tired of people trying to imply that every new leader on the scene is the antichrist, and every new technology is the mark of the beast. My fear is that it make Christians look... well... foolish.

[Ransom v. Unman]

My fear is that it make Christians look... well... foolish.

Oh, and it does. ;)

FULL DISCLOSURE: I used to believe in a lot of this stuff, too. I do understand. And if the government ever does start trying to pull off crap like this, it is something we should be worried about – granted, i don't think it'll be "the Mark", so to speak.

[ProfessorAlan]

I am not at all sold on pretrib rapture and a literal translation of the book of Revelation, but ...... totally agree with Tam and RvU on this one.

[Ransom v. Unman]

Oh, by the by, here's the link to that article I mentioned earlier...

It's from Business Week – not exactly a publication of the Plymouth Brethren or Dispensationalist theologians...

http://www.businessweek.com/technology/content/feb2008/tc20080211_165324.htm