Huckabee

[jacks girl]

I seen Chuck Norris standing behind this man. It got my attention may be i should look at this man. I think Mr. Norris is a fine moral man so I thought if he's supporting him is he any good.

I'm going to look him up but do you have any comments. do you dis like him, do you know him. Will you never vote republican again LOL. Got any comments.


can i post a link to his web site I'm not pushing for him in the least just looking him over.???

jacks

[lynnmosher]

That's a question for Rebecca. I have no idea.

[Ransom v. Unman]

Problems I have with Mr. Huckabee, and why I won't be supporting him (despite the great Chuck Norris giving his approval.)

-Death penalty support.
-Downplaying the abuses and sloppy tactics of Guantanamo interrogators.
-Stands against gun control.
-Does not even address the issues (from what I've seen) of reforming healthcare and college education funding
-Has no military credentials (I don't care if the president's supposed to be a citizen, I like the idea of the person with their finger on the button knowing what it costs when military intervention is brought in – a problem we've had very bad things arise from in the past)
-He has the kind of devisive personality that I think in the end will make things far worse off for us believers than better.

But as I've stated elsewhere, i'm not supporting anyone at this juncture, and I don't see that changing.

[jacks girl]

Thanks for your input. I'm not sure who i will vote for I may just stay home.

Death penalty support. I couldn't personally kill someone. I think no one that says they didn't do the crime should be put to death. There is always a chance they could be right.

Downplaying the abuses and sloppy tactics of Guantanamo interrogators. Don't follow this topic close enough to have an opinion.

-Stands against gun control. I'm against most gun control so this is okay with me.

-Does not even address the issues (from what I've seen) of reforming healthcare and college education funding This needs some looking into for sure we need something done.


-Has no military credentials (I don't care if the president's supposed to be a citizen, I like the idea of the person with their finger on the button knowing what it costs when military intervention is brought in – a problem we've had very bad things arise from in the past) I agree with this and often thing we need a person in control of the military that is not the president when we have one that don't know what he's doing. May be we need to have a Military president.


-He has the kind of devisive personality that I think in the end will make things far worse off for us believers than better. Some are comparing him to clinton since he comes from Hope Ark. YIKES not sure i like this part. But at least we were not bored with old Bill.

Jacks

[lynnmosher]

Right now, I'm with Ransom on this. I haven't a clue who I'll vote for. I'd love to pick a piece of each one and make up my own!

[jacks girl]

that would be great i want to vote for obama but i aint studied him enough yet.

jacks

[Tamera]

I'm for Huckabee. There are a number of issues including abortion where I agree with his stance. But there are others who have the same stance. But Huckabee is different when it comes to the tax code. I love the idea of doing away with income tax and doing a straight sales tax. There are those who earn their money crimanally and under the table, as well as illegal immigrants, who would be paying taxes if this came to be. People also wouldn't be penalized unfairly for working hard or for saving their money.

[kshsj777]

Problems I have with Mr. Huckabee, and why I won't be supporting him (despite the great Chuck Norris giving his approval.)

-Death penalty support.

First of all, the Bible itself mandates the death penalty. "Whoever sheds man's blood, by man his blood shall be shed, for in the image of God, He made man." Genesis 9:6.

The death penalty actually upholds the sanctity of life. Taking a life is a severe offense, which requires a punishment that fits the crime.

It's also not the same thing as revenge. With capital punishment, theoretically, a person as been given a fair trial by his peers and found guilty of murder. His execution is carried out by the government, by individuals appointed by the government, acting as the government has decreed.

With revenge, you have one person acting on his own to take revenge for the crime.

[Ransom v. Unman]

First of all, the Bible itself mandates the death penalty. "Whoever sheds man's blood, by man his blood shall be shed, for in the image of God, He made man." Genesis 9:6.

The death penalty actually upholds the sanctity of life. Taking a life is a severe offense, which requires a punishment that fits the crime.

It's also not the same thing as revenge. With capital punishment, theoretically, a person as been given a fair trial by his peers and found guilty of murder. His execution is carried out by the government, by individuals appointed by the government, acting as the government has decreed.

With revenge, you have one person acting on his own to take revenge for the crime.

Mmm... Y'see, now, I doubt you or anyone else on this board lives according to Jewish law. If we're going to take this to its logical conclusion, every rebellious child should be executed, every adulterer should be executed, every person who proclaims something in God's name and it doesn't come to pass should be executed...

We don't live in a Christian theocracy, and I'm pretty glad we don't.

I don't support the death penalty being carried out by our SECULAR government because of the cost involved, the bias so prevelant in death penalty cases, the cost in legal fees and court examinations that actually exceeds keeping an inmate in life for prison, and namely the number of people who have been proven innocent after execution.

And here's another thing that gets my dander up about "conservative" politics being terminally linked with Christianity – why is it that we get mad at "welfare leeches", we want to see gays punished and ostracised, and we demand illegal immigrants be kicked out immeidately, but when it comes to an opportunity to actually preserve life and show mercy to someone, we suddenly grow so hesitant?

Read John 8. Obviously Jesus wasn't too hot on the death penalty either, and frankly, if it comes to this political grey area, I'm going to err on His side.

[Tommie Lyn]

Right now, I'm with Ransom on this. I haven't a clue who I'll vote for.

I know exactly who I'll vote for -- the same write-in candidate I've voted for in the last few presidential elections and one or two local campaigns: Jefferson Davis.

[Ransom v. Unman]

I know exactly who I'll vote for -- the same write-in candidate I've voted for in the last few presidential elections and one or two local campaigns: Jefferson Davis.

LOL!!!

Perfect.

Write-in candidates are the best ones. You can say you've done your democratic responsibility of voting, while still being absolved of all blame no matter which evil wins.

:D

[Tommie Lyn]

You can say you've done your democratic responsibility of voting, while still being absolved of all blame no matter which evil wins.

:D
The lesser of two evils is still evil.

[Ransom v. Unman]

The lesser of two evils is still evil.

PRE-cisely.

To be honest, I wouldn't mind if Jefferson Davis did win the next election. :p

[Tommie Lyn]

To be honest, I wouldn't mind if Jefferson Davis did win the next election. :p

It is my contention that, dead and in his grave, he would be a more effective president than the ones currently campaigning for the office -- at least he wouldn't do any harm...

[Ransom v. Unman]

Well, that's a similar reason I vote for Jesus and Gandalf.

[Phy]

Just to clarify, Huckabee hasn't 'won' West Virginia. McCain gave it to him to prevent Romney from winning. Huckabee has no chance to win the Republican nomination, but he persists. He's this year's Nader, this year's Ross Poriot. If he had any honor, he'd have stepped aside before this.

[ProfessorAlan]

Just to clarify, Huckabee is in a primary election, not a general, so the analogy doesn't quite work. The concept of "spoiler" generally applies to a candidate who's votes cause a candidate from the other party to win. Nader and Perot were spoilers, yes, but Huckabee is not. I'm not saying he will win the nomination, mind you, but I can't call his continued role a "spoiler."

Also, the Huck has won (even if you don't want to count WV) Iowa, Arkansas, and Alabama -- and at 10PM EST on Super Tuesday, he is "too close to call" in Missouri, Georgia, and Tennessee. Neither Nader nor Perot ever won a state -- Perot came in second in one state, one time.

[Tamera]

Well said, Professor. Although Romney is slightly ahead of Huckabee, Huckabee showed last night that he still has the ability to pull ahead and win this thing. The campaign is not over yet. I'm still not sure why Romney has a greater appeal than Huckabee among conservatives. I'm still backing Huckabee.

[ProfessorAlan]

I was not endorsing any of the 3 candidates -- I have qualms about each of them -- just clarifying the "spoiler" concept.

[Tamera]

I understand.
Just voicing my opinion.

[ProfessorAlan]

I pretty much consider politics more a "spectator sport" than anything else more important ... and this year has certainly been interesting on both sides, and I expect to continue to be.

[Ransom v. Unman]

It would be a lot more interesting if Huckabee (or someone) broke off into their own camp, and began claiming the states that voted for him as "Greater Huckabia" (or something), and slowly consolidated their power until they could challenge the rest of the United States in a military campaign that would lay waste to our cityscapes and countrysides, force us to reconsider what is truly important in life, and ultimately set in motion a wave of events that would topple the world order as we know it, and sweep the set clean for a new dawn...

Well, at least in my opinion.

Umm, go Huckabee!

[ProfessorAlan]

It would be a lot more interesting if Huckabee (or someone) broke off into their own camp, and began claiming the states that voted for him as "Greater Huckabia" (or something), and slowly consolidated their power until they could challenge the rest of the United States in a military campaign that would lay waste to our cityscapes and countrysides, force us to reconsider what is truly important in life, and ultimately set in motion a wave of events that would topple the world order as we know it, and sweep the set clean for a new dawn...

aren't you already writing that novel???

[Ransom v. Unman]

aren't you already writing that novel???

It's going to be a comic book series, Alan. Comic books.

Of course, in that story, none of the presidential candidates really want change (much like real life, I suppose,) and it's a bunch of disgruntled kids with laser-guns who rise up and dismantle everything.

Okay...

/hijack off

[Tommie Lyn]

It would be a lot more interesting if Huckabee (or someone) broke off into their own camp, and began claiming the states that voted for him as "Greater Huckabia" (or something), and slowly consolidated their power until they could challenge the rest of the United States in a military campaign that would lay waste to our cityscapes and countrysides, force us to reconsider what is truly important in life, and ultimately set in motion a wave of events that would topple the world order as we know it, and sweep the set clean for a new dawn...

Sounds good to me. Vermont has a secession movement, as have several other States. Maybe this time someone will succeed in their move to break away and establish self-government....