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Merry
08-06-2007, 08:22 PM
I did a dumb thing this weekend. I watched all three episodes of ABC Family's mini-series, 'Fallen.' See, I wrote a novel about a nephilim, (half-angel/ half-human) and that's what the main character of Fallen happened to be, so I was curious.

I had the feeling whoever wrote this story was a secular Humanist who picked up the book of Enoch and decided it would make good TV. There were a number of angelic things they got correct and MUST have pulled from Enoch, but then Enoch isn't part of the canon.

In the story, this teen age nephilim is supposed to be the redeemer of all Fallen angels...I thought, okay, pretty lame, but maybe they were trying to say something...but what they were trying to say...who knows?

Anyway, they treated the audience to scenes like where the teenage nephilim had a human come to him begging for redemption, asking to have his sins washed away, and 3 or 4 more angels are also standing around, and the name of Jesus Christ never comes up. The man dies in his sins.

Nastiest little trick they used was pulling out actual names from the record in Enoch. I studied a lot before I wrote Mike Malone (my half-angle character) and one thing I found out was that according to at least three different Jewish traditions you are not supposed to say the names of the angels that caused the flood. Reading is okay, but don't say it. Even in my story, I made up a name, similar to stuff in Enoch as a name for Mikes father, but it's not a ringer by any means. I know this can be chalked up to superstition and certainly God is greater than any name, but I've found when a lot of these old Jews said things it was not a bad idea to humor them and go along with what they had to say. I mean, if the universe could be spoken into existence, then words are very powerful things.

So this show featured as a character, Azazel, a fallen angel. (Of course, thanks to ABC family little kids now know how to pronounce his name perfectly.) According to Enoch, he was the one who instigated having the angles come to earth to mate with human women in the first place. There are pronouncements against him left and right, he's with the other fallen who caused the flood, in chains right now, waiting for the end of days.

So ABC portrays him as this British rock star type and his name was said constantly. It got to be like hearing fingernails on a chalk board after awhile. And I'm sure that was God trying to say, 'Turn the dumb thing off!'

When it was over I thought the whole production needed a giant boost of Christian doctrine, otherwise it was just ridiculous and put it out of my head.

Last night, I woke up at 1:30 am and there was something in my house. I could feel a presence as nasty and hateful as anything. I walked into my living room and saw a the outline of a shadow moving along the wall. I prayed, told it to go away in the name of Jesus Christ and everything was fine. But stuff like that doesn't happen unless you open a door for it to and in the past 24 hours the most occult happening in my home was that stupid show. While this was going on, my son started speaking rapidly in his sleep. He often carries on conversations in his dreams about cars and airplanes, boy stuff, but this was so fast, I couldn't understand him. When it was over he settled down and slept peacefully.

I just wonder how many other households had problems like that last night. New catch phrase- 'ABC Family: Introducing your family to the demonic world!'
Pray for those guys.

Tamera
08-06-2007, 09:01 PM
Thanks for the commentary on this show, Merry. I would never watch it but it helps me to know from other Christians exactly what the show is about. Your information was very helpful.

mbeachbum
08-06-2007, 11:25 PM
Wow, Merry. I take your account seriously. That is scary! Praise God that He is all powerful.

As for the ABC Family channel, I have long wondered if it were truly a family channel. I rarely watch it, but as I surf by it, I notice the names of shows on it and some of them have been questionable in my book. Thanks for the heads up about "Fallen."

Thanks for sharing!

dulcigal
08-07-2007, 12:35 AM
I got turned off to it when the commercials made light of lucifer as if he was some sort of human-emotive character. Blech - nope, no watching for me!

I read or heard that the original family channel was started by Pat Robertson. It's a far cry from that now! Some of the other shows, demonic or not, are just sleeze fests.

lynnmosher
08-07-2007, 09:45 AM
Merry, Thanks for sharing your experience. I have long believed that what we watch and listen to can affect us. As this discussion was on another thread, I do not want to go in that direction. Suffice it to say, we must be very careful in our choices of entertainment, for we can end up entertaining things of negative influence. This must have been scary for you. I'm glad you had the faith to stand up to evil and command it to leave by speaking the holiness of Jesus' name.

Merry
08-07-2007, 11:30 AM
Yep, it was an awfully big lesson in watching what I let into my home. Thankfully, all remains well.

kerrig
08-07-2007, 11:39 AM
Merry, thank you for the warning. The Bible says that the power of life and death are in the tongue. If we aren't supposed to say certain names then I say we don't. The Jewish people know alot more than people give them credit for.
Let me tell you something that happened to us a few years ago. We were on a road trip one day and decided to go and show our children the church camp that I had attended when I was younger. Well, when I went there to camp there is a building that was rumored haunted. You know how those things go when you are a kid. But I hadn't really thought much about it since becoming a Christian.
When we went there that day we were shown through that same building by the Supervisor of the camp. He wasn't very friendly to begin with. I am usually pretty good at discerning spirits or used to be and knew there was something wrong before we ever got to the top of the building. See, in the top is the attic that campers would sneak into at night because they had been told it was haunted.
We got into the attic and my husband was talking with this man and I was just wandering around looking to see if it still looked the same as when I was in high school. All of a sudden I had a really sick feeling that there was death in that place. I mean, I got scared. Now I am not afraid of demons because greater is He who is in me than he who is in the world, but there was something there that scared me. I got my husband off to the side and told him that we needed to go and get out of there because something wasn't right.
When we went to bed that night my husband woke up about 1:00 in the morning having a coughing fit and went to the living room to keep from disturbing me. As soon as he left the room, there was something in the room with me. Something had followed us home. I laid there and was literally held to my bed and not able to get up. I began praying and praising God and was able to get up and go to the living room. I told Joe about it and we prayed and everything was fine, it was gone.
Later that week at Bible Study I mentioned it to the pastor and he had gone to that camp to Bible college years earlier. Guess what I found out? Not him, but some of the other students had done seances in that room that we had been in.
That explained why something followed us home. There are reasons that it attacked me and did not attack my husband but I won't go into them here. Suffice it to say that even though we don't have to fear demons they are nothing to mess with. We can invited them into our homes without even realizing it. Movies, music, people that we allow to come in. We need to be very choosy and keep our house as clean as we can.

psychoceramic
08-07-2007, 12:50 PM
After seeing half of a commercial for this show fallen I was excited to see it...then the commercial said on abc family... so I thought nope no chance I will ever see that.

Now after your details I am glad I did not watch it.

As for ABC family... there is nothing family friendly about them.....except the fact that they have to put on the 700 club and some other Christian shows as part of the deal when pat Robertson sold the network to abc.

I do not allow this station to be watched in my house unless it is the 700 club or other shows like it.

Merry
08-07-2007, 07:45 PM
Well, I had to 'do' something. may not be much but I went over to ABC Family and joined their forum about this show. It featured posters who sounded like wide-eyed little teens fascinated over how cool it would be if 'Fallen' were true. So I made my own thread, gave my opinion of their tawdry piece of compost and put up two links, one to a video featuring Dr. Mike Heiser, who explains the nephilim from an entirely Biblical perspective, and Guy Malone's alienresistance.org, which also has a ton of info about everything from fallen angels to aliens.

Of course, I warned that entry to both sites would require thinking. Well, at least the info is where those most easily affected by the program might find it.

lynnmosher
08-07-2007, 07:55 PM
Yea, rah, rah!!! Way to go, Merry! !thumbsup! !thumbsup! !thumbsup!

pajarita_deDios
08-08-2007, 03:45 AM
Merry,
I saw the previews for Fallen, and fortunately after being in film and screenwriting for a while now I wasn't fooled by their little teaser. I noticed little things like the emphasis they were putting on the relationship between the man and woman in the show. Also, the main male character said something like "I'm taking control of my own life now", not a phrase I think of as Christian...

Something my mom once told me has stuck in my brain....She said, "When it comes to hollywood and our beliefs, don't expect much." Sadly, she was right.

Merry
08-08-2007, 09:58 AM
Ha! Your mom is one smart lady! Quite true!

Lion_Angel
08-12-2007, 01:04 PM
Thank God I am not the only one who has a critical review of this show. My mom turned it on and I sat in the 3 episdoes as well, because it was semi-intersting. That was the one thing I thought was absolutely bogus: the name of Jesus Christ hadn't come up. Even the "redeemer" kid wasn't very into the Bible it seemed. It just seemed all messed up. But as I continued to watch, I kept hoping that somewhere in the movie it would be a witness. But--no.

I didn't have anything strange happen in my house after watching, but it kept sticking to my mind like glue. I don't want to watch that anyway. It felt like the tv show "Charmed" except no magic. That doesn't mean it isn't any less "sinister" I guess you could say.

Your sister in Christ Jesus,

Mel