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Phy
05-08-2007, 03:55 PM
The recent discussion about magic in fantasy settings versus the supernatural element in the real world has collided with an article in the latest issue of The Writer magazine to give me an idea for a story about these very issues.

There is, of course, a twist.

In his Syntax column, Arthur Plotnik writes an article entitled 'When to use 'you' in fiction'. He writes that the second-person voice is 'perilous but rich in possibilities'. That sparked some intriguing daydreaming about all this over lunch today.

I'm thinking about writing a short story that deals with all these elements and culminates with a distinction, a decision, and a bang.

One of the thoughts that came to mind is this:
One can't be a believer and superstitious as the same time (new
wineskin, and all that).

As for the second-person perspective, here's how it looks in print:
"You are not the kind of guy who would be at place like this at this
time of the morning. But here you are... You are at a nightclub
talking to a girl with a shaved head."
Bright Lights, Big City - Jay McInerney

I started thinking about how to write a story in the 2nd person using
the 'you' methodology to detail the distinction between fictional
magic and the RL, and I thought how fun it would be to have the author
writing in the 'you' language. But who is he writing to? Is 'you' himself, or is 'you you, the gentle reader? I already have an idea who 'you' is and what the hook might be. I'm intrigued with the ideas that are already swirling.

Right now, I'm finishing Chapter 11 of The Sky Pirate serial for Issue 22 of Ray Gun Revival magazine (5/15/07) but I like to work on non-TSP-related things in the off-weeks, and this is the sort of story that I'm interested in when I need to break from swashbuckling adventure fiction.

When writing to Christians, I like to write about things you don't normally get elsewhere. My most recent off-TSP story was a Christian sci-fi story at the new quarterly, Wayfarers Journal. It asks if androids have a soul and is told in the first person from the perspective of a narrator who is more than he first appears:
http://www.wayfarersjournal.com/cook.htm

The man sitting across from me in the restaurant wasn't technically human. It is true he used to be a man, and other than the government-mandated purple eyes, he looked like one now.

I, of all people, knew better.

These are the things I think about when I get enough rest and
eat a good lunch while being visited by a new thought over lunch.

Lookin^Up
05-08-2007, 11:18 PM
My biggest problem with second-person writing is that too many people, especially ministers, use it accusatorily. In other words, they get in my face with what they hope are convicting statements, but when none of what they're saying applies to me, I find myself getting offended.

Yes, I know I'm probably not their intended target, but that does not change how I feel. It's rather like spraying bullets into a crowd and hoping to hit the criminal. Trying to write an entire fictional story this way is too weird; it would be too easy to offend someone more important than me.

Phy
05-08-2007, 11:22 PM
Trying to write an entire fictional story this way is too weird; it would be too easy to offend someone more important than me.

Ah, there's the rub. I'm thinking of only using the 'you do this', 'you do that' stuff in dream sequences, short, punchy pastiches that occur between more normal first person prose.

mel3
05-09-2007, 04:09 AM
I used to write in 2nd person for about 3years straight. I dont know why and the funny thing is, I never did figure out just who I was writng to , me the author, or to the reader! Maybe a bit of both.
A lot of people who read my work found 'the you' thing uncomfortable, even a little offensive, as Lookin^ Up put it.
Your idea of of the short dream sequences sounds good though.

Thebigguy
05-09-2007, 12:02 PM
For "Magic" as in eternal mysteries I recommend Mere Christianity and any other of C.S. Lewis's writings. I think when time touches the eternal that is magic. Supernatural. Uplifting and awesome. As for second person Someone will have to give me a reminder on this one I can't seem to get my head around it.

Phy
05-09-2007, 01:24 PM
Here's how it looks in print:
"You are not the kind of guy who would be at place like this at this
time of the morning. But here you are... You are at a nightclub
talking to a girl with a shaved head."
Bright Lights, Big City - Jay McInerney

Instead of past-tense, 2nd Person POV is in a form of the present tense and is a very immediate form of writing. Also, it focuses the attention on 'you do this' 'you do that'.